EXCLUSIVE: Lies Revealed — Greenpeace Leader Admits Arctic Ice Exaggeration
by Phelim McAleer & Ann McElhinneyThe outgoing leader of Greenpeace has admitted his organization’s recent claim that the Arctic Ice will disappear by 2030 was “a mistake.” Greenpeace made the claim in a July 15 press release entitled “Urgent Action Needed As Arctic Ice Melts,” which said there will be an ice-free Arctic by 2030 because of global warming.
Under close questioning by BBC reporter Stephen Sackur on the “Hardtalk” program, Gerd Leipold, the retiring leader of Greenpeace, said the claim was wrong.
“I don’t think it will be melting by 2030. … That may have been a mistake,” he said.
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Sackur said the claim was inaccurate on two fronts, pointing out that the Arctic ice is a mass of 1.6 million square kilometers with a thickness of 3 km in the middle, and that it had survived much warmer periods in history than the present.
The BBC reporter accused Leipold and Greenpeace of releasing “misleading information” and using “exaggeration and alarmism.”
Leipold’s admission that Greenpeace issued misleading information is a major embarrassment to the organization, which often has been accused of alarmism but has always insisted that it applies full scientific rigor in its global-warming pronouncements.
Although he admitted Greenpeace had released inaccurate but alarming information, Leipold defended the organization’s practice of “emotionalizing issues” in order to bring the public around to its way of thinking and alter public opinion.
Leipold said later in the BBC interview that there is an urgent need for the suppression of economic growth in the United States and around the world. He said annual growth rates of 3 percent to 8 percent cannot continue without serious consequences for the climate.
“We will definitely have to move to a different concept of growth. … The lifestyle of the rich in the world is not a sustainable model,” Leipold said. “If you take the lifestyle, its cost on the environment, and you multiply it with the billions of people and an increasing world population, you come up with numbers which are truly scary.”
(You can watch the full BBC interview with Leipold here, and to learn more about Greenpeace-style global warming hysteria and its potential toll on the American dream, go to www.noteviljustwrong.com, the Web site for the forthcoming documentary “Not Evil Just Wrong,” by Phelim McAleer and Ann McElhinney.)
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Hmm things must not be going well for the "Greenies" when even the BBC is questioning the truthfulness of Climate Scientists; considering that the BBC spent the past decade parroting climate science doomsday rhetoric.
Me thinks the Climate Change thing is about to implode.
Are there billions of rich people in the world? I tell you what; as soon as algore gives up his private jets and mansions I'll start reducing my carbon footprint.
Finally, a concession that may lead towards truth. Hopefully others in the forefront of the Warming movement will take steps to admit they were wrong as well, and we can finally be done with the chaos and doomsday scenarios…as well as squiggly lightbulbs.
….only the stoned or truly stupid believed them…..
Well, the ends justify the means doesn't it?
Idiot.
Although the new anti-global-warming-hysteria film is called "Not Evil Just Wrong," I have to disagree: many of these people, including Greenpeace as an organization, are just plain evil. They flat out lie about things and this is just the latest example.
One can only hope this will lead to more American news outlets questioning organizations like Greenpeace, but I'm not expecting it any time soon.
Greenpeace is amazing… they convince people that they are the ones doing the right thing, but actually, they are the ones not telling the truth or the whole story. What a bunch of manipulators and trying to play off of people's emotions since they know their facts dont support what is actually happening.
They should not only be ashamed of themselves, but they should stop all of this alarmism of global warming, which they dont actually say anymore since it is not happening. They, because they and most other environmentalist know they are wrong, now conveniently say 'climate change' rather than global warming.
But, as shown here, when push comes to shove, the do admit it… bravo… but now they should really admit it and get it over with and saves millions of lives. I challenge, and we should all ask for this, Greenpeace to admit that their recent claim about the arctic ice was incorrect. They need to go on the record. We all deserve the truth, so Greenpeace … stop the lies.
Funny when you consider their donors are the very type of people the organization feels are immoral and wrong. Of course, we mean just those wealthy types who don't feel guilty about it and give us money.
Well, I can say it is just another LIEING LEFTY!!!
Where to go as an anti-capitalist after communism failed circa 1989? Easy, the environmental movement.
Standard methodology of radical environmentalists. Gross exaggeration to get support and bargain their position. Sort of like when you want X amount for services, so ask for X+10% to have some wiggle room. I was at a conference of "sustainable" building way back in my college days (yep, green and "liberal" back then) and one of the presenters matter of fact stated they need to exaggerate to get the concessions they want from the capitalists. Oh, to be young and naive. What they didn't talk about is how those evil capitalists have, whether intentionally or not, improved the standard of living of people in the poorest parts of the world. So sure while some people live better than others, the poor are living better lives also. But that's not the issue, it is "equality" isn't it? Even if the "equality" isn't really equal and causes stagnation, lack of true progress, even reversal of living conditions. No thanks, I'd prefer the evil capitalists and free trade, I'm a true liberal (for freedom) and progressive (for progress)
Sadly, the lefties will ignore, or find a way to spin even this stunning admission…..Normal people, though, will give no credibility whatsoever to organizations like greenpeace, who peddle propaganda for a living, the very definition of which includes "Emotionalizing issues" like protecting the environment……
"I'm, shocked, shocked to find that there is gambling in this establishment!"
“The lifestyle of the rich in the world is not a sustainable model,”
Wow, does that include the GREEN MAN himself Al Gore?
How will the Greenies and Al Gore Carbon off-set this?
Jeepers! Does this mean that those "rich and Famous" (i.e.. Paris Hilton, Ben Affleck, Matt Damon, Leo DiCaprio, etc.) have to curb their lifestyles or will the environmentalist greenies practice selectivity for those who tryreal hard or simply talk a good game about such concerns? The world has truly gone nuts. God help us all!
Is there Anything that these whack jobs say that is actually TRUTH? Are they ALL in Al Gore, Nancy Pelosi and T Boon Pickens pockets?
Hmmmm, what to believe, what to believe. Definitely no one from the left that's for sure.
Pity those folks who actually sent money to the world wildlife foundation, who shed tears at the sight of a polar bear standing on a lonely block of arctic ice. (which you will see every summer by the way). Their money only went to pay the photographers to go back up there and take MORE heart-wrenching photos, not to save any polar bears. God, some people are so stupid and can't figure out where to put their money.
[...] From Big Hollywood: The outgoing leader of Greenpeace has admitted his organization’s recent claim that the Arctic Ice will disappear by 2030 was “a mistake.” Greenpeace made the claim in a July 15 press release entitled “Urgent Action Needed As Arctic Ice Melts,” which said there will be an ice-free Arctic by 2030 because of global warming. [...]
Ayn Rand's "The New Left: The Anti-Industrial Revolution" warned of this c 1971.
They don't even really care about equality. Many of them really want mass starvation (exempting themselves of course).
[...] Read it. The outgoing leader of Greenpeace has admitted his organization’s recent claim that the Arctic Ice will disappear by 2030 was “a mistake.” Greenpeace made the claim in a July 15 press release entitled “Urgent Action Needed As Arctic Ice Melts,” which said there will be an ice-free Arctic by 2030 because of global warming. [...]
There is? Oh! My! God!
Remember the old global warming? When CFC's were going to destroy the world? Turns out DuPont's patent on CFC's was merely running out which meant that they could be produced in developing nations for a severe fraction of the cost.
So we banned CFC's and instead we use DuPont's new (patented) version. And saved the world. Why didn't we throw a parade.
The Left are agrarians so naturally they worship nature. It is a religion. A means of controlling a mass of people. And getting rich in the process.
That's why I put "equality" in quotes, where people can gain political influence, and claim doing it for the greater "good"
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My Spanish wife has a nick name for these guys: Water melons. They are green on the outside but red in the middle.
"liar, liar, pants on fire, your nose is longer than a telephone wire." Fantatics seldom let things like facts stand in the way of an agenda.
Green Peace is a hungry well funded animal . They'll say anything to keep the green coming in. SAME goes for Nature CONservancy, WWildlife Fund, Rainforest Action etc etc. If the environmental 'problems' didn't re-invent themselves every few years the dollars would dwindle.
Peeps I know work for one outfit, in grant writing or P.R. then get hired at the other for bigger $$$ , move from there to a yet bigger 'green' paycheck etc…
Greenpeace Fund, Inc. …exists solely to pass funds along to other Greenpeace organizations. … Greenpeace Fund, Inc.is a corporation established for the purpose of enabling tax-deductible contributions from big donors and from foundations to flow illegally to Greenpeace, Inc. and Greenpeace Internationa. They paid nine employees $418,022 in 2001, …some of these employees "received additional compensation from Greenpeace itself (Greenpeace, Inc.)."
They beg for donations, as if they cannot accomplish their mission unless the average citizen pitches in bux. Butthey pay their executives six-figure salaries.
Pictures of sad eyed animals juxtaposed with gloomy factories and smudged skies are always a big hit with my donor friends. The pictures convince them that without the donations these critters are going to meet a bloody death.
He wanted to distort his argument soooo bad. It fun to see ideologues crack under the pressure.
[...] site for the forthcoming documentary
"The lifestyle of the rich in the world is not a sustainable model,” Leipold said.
Presumably, Mr. Leipold has taken a vow of poverty. Or is his lifestyle the same as that other serial exagerator, Mr. Al Gore, promoter of inconvenient so-called "truths?"
I've been saying it for years… These greenies are morons. There's NO sign of ice shrinkage.
Here's Al Gore ranting and raving like a lunatic because of what this Green peace moron said– read it and laugh!
http://www.cejournal.net/?p=1376
Yep, it all goes along with their deep-seated almost psychopathic need for control. Not really power, it's a fetishistic desire for control. For them, stupidity isn't even a factor while, they walk around with GAF viewmasters glued to their faces, eternally viewing the Edward G. Robinson death scene from Soylent Green. Ever watch that retarded show "Whale Wars"? heh heh…….a couple Ma-duces mounted on the ship would solve that problem, quickly. OK, I volunteer. .50 cal = Instant Attitude Adjustment.
Greenpeace is a highly politcially motivated Eco-terror organisation. Of course they emotionalise everything, that is how they recruit their foot soldiers. Of course they want the west reduced to third world conditions. Lies are the stock in trade of every one of these organisations from Greenstrife (I like the watermelon analogy!) to Fiends of the Earth. Science? Ha! They have lied on the Brentspar issue, they have lied about nuclear waste and power generation and now they are being caught out on the global warming issue as well. About damned time is all I can say.
If tree huggers really beleived what they said, they would commit suicide to help save the planet. I'll start to recycle my trash and buy an electric car if 100 tree huggers hanged themselves from a bridge. Otherwise my ice maker works great and I love big fat cubs in my scotch.
If you see "Phd" and "Global Warming" in the same paper, bet that it is all made up bunk. These people got degrees in global warming studies… if there's no global warming, there's no papers to write. If there's no papers to write, there's no publishing. If there's no publishing, there's no tenure at the local University and hence, you're unemployed.
Never trust an environmentalist, a fart, or your teenager with your car.
Follow those rules, you'll live a happy life.
I always watch whale wars on TV. I want to get a job on the grand whaling ship the Yushin Maru .
I can think of nothing I would I would like doing more than passing the time pelting those irritating green peace hippies with nuts and bolts, water cannons and that cool sound gun. I may even have a few new tricks up my sleeves too, that I can introduce my Japanese friend too. I think I could be a great asset to our wronged Japanese friends, if only they would allow me.
And, what will the Hollywood folks – who claim to be pro-environment – say when this guy from Greenpeace argues that they have to give up their fabulous lifestyles? Could it be that there is just a huge amount of "emotionalizing" going on here on the part of the global warming fanatics?
Good name, I hope she dont mind me to use it
You know I can't understand how they actually have a show on TV glorifying those freaks. They should be treated like Somali pirates and their ships sent to the bottom.
[...] Big Hollywood exposes the lie… The outgoing leader of Greenpeace has admitted his organization’s recent claim that the Arctic Ice… [...]
I wonder, when the whole global warming hysteria is proven false, or at the very least not the catastrophe they make it out to be, will they prosecute Al Gore and others for fraud?
I agree, if they are not pirates who is. But the best part is seeing how they are so disorganized and always lose. My wife and I laugh like hell. I would just love to be on that Japanese ship, they need to be more aggressive. I would tell them to use the harpoon on those Zodiacs, reel them in and give them a few Karate chops
Mikhail "Gorby" Gorbachev recognized a *safe haven* when he saw one and, *PRESTO*, he's "greenie". Ya, I believe him on that one…he's high living hypocrite darling of the Euro-lefties that's just another burned out old commie…like Castro
JimBob23 seconds your outrage!
JimBob23 seconds, nay thirds your outrage!
Facts matter not to the left, we must not question their authority and wisdom. These witless fools are full of compassion, and it’s for the children …damn it!
That reminds of the split in the NAZI party when one faction began to have communist leanings, of course before Hitler accerted control, i.e. mass murder of his S.A. opposition. They were called "beefsteak NAZIS" …brown on the outside and red in the middle. Very applicable.
I'm sometimes in the same room as my wife cheers for the pirates. Err!! I have to laugh, but she doesn't know what I'm laughing at. As I was on my laptop (no, really), I heard the captain say, they were trying to make it too expensive to fish for whale. I laughed out loud. Sorry, but that's not how it works. All they do is raise the price of whale meat. I cheer for the Japanese. Controlled hunts, good for the consumers, good for the whalers, and even good for the whales.
So why don't the whalers act more aggressively? What's to stop them from dropping a piano on those zodiacs? They are nothing more than terrorists in my book, and if they act aggressively then they should be met with greater aggression.
It is crucial to understand what environmentalists like Gerd Leipold mean by "sustainable". According to them the "sustainable" population of the earth is less than two billion humans. Current world population is closing in on 7 billion. Do the math, and recognized that these are organizations whose guiding 'sprinciple is "ends justify the means." What, in addition to lying about the scientific data, are they willing to do to to achieve their goals?
Greenpeace's objectives are much scarier than they sound.
Ever notice how much the hippies cry when the whalers do the exact same thing to the hippies, like fouling their prop, that the hippies done to the whalers first numerous times? Those poor excuse for guys and girls are the height of hypocrisy, I don't think they can be any worst. I think I would laugh my arse off for 5 days if they dropped a piano on the Zodiac, I am picturing it in my mind now.
Its true, it is very good for the whales. Its like deer hunting, you have to tin out the heard. Kinda kill em for their own good thing. My wife is cool, we both cheer for the Japanese. We shared your laugh at that dumb looking lazy fat captain who looks like a can opener with those teeth. I guess green peace don't have a dental plan.
Kit, does anyone actually believe in man made global warming anymore? It's literally like listening to a group of 7yr olds explain how the front window was broken………………
There is a word for disregarding the truth in order to "emotionalize" issues, and that word is "Propaganda".
And might I ask just what kind of lifestyle do the heads of Greenpeace themselves live?
Like they usually do. They'll tell "us" we have to sacrifice more for the good of mother earth…………..(he say's as he remote starts his big honkin' suv! I like it cold when I get in………)
This was also a theme in Michael Crichton's novel "State of Fear".
You, Sir, will be inducted to my personal Pantheon of Heroes along with George S. Patton, Ronald Reagan and many other people of deep conservative faith. I thought I was the only person on Earth sitting home on Fridays rooting for the Japanese, hoping someone on Yushin Maru would break out a Ben Pearson compound bow and start dropping shots on the two zodiacs. I love whales, but I detest the people on the Steve Irwin so much that I have to consider the possibility that these whales are in collusion with Al-Queda.
ganbatte ne! がんばってね!
I'm "increasing" mine everyday until "Fat Albert" does what you said………….For every one thing an eco-terrorist does to reduce imaginary man made global warming, I do ten things to offset it……..I'm not alone on this either…….
What an idiot. Economic growth rates of 3% to 8% cannot be sustained? It is the population growth rate in the undeveloped world that presents more problems. They are the ones that will be cutting down forests for wood to build and use as fuel, and polluting the rivers and lakes and advancing desertification. It is economic growth (and technological) that will save the world. The trick is to funnel our economic growth into cleaner fuels (FUSION/ANTIMATTER) and better agriculture. The powers that be will not allow it because they are protective of the status quo. They lack vision.
Reducing economic growth will have dire ecological consequences as people fight to maintain their current lifestyle. Bah…hippies.
Hey, that's the Merriam Webster definition of a "Liberal"………..
Al Gore the eco wh&re went to collage to study politics and how to aquire government money and grants. What makes him the highest revered meteorologist and scientist on the planet, who gets the noble prize for making 200 million dollars for his sales job? You just can't make this stuff up.
[...] Oops: The outgoing leader of Greenpeace has admitted his organization’s recent claim that the Arctic Ice will disappear by 2030 was “a mistake.” Greenpeace made the claim in a July 15 press release entitled “Urgent Action Needed As Arctic Ice Melts,” which said there will be an ice-free Arctic by 2030 because of global warming. [...]
"We didn't do nothin'! Some other guy just came up and raised the amount of CO2 in the atmosphere! We told him not to do it but he just laughed and ran off!"
"It's not our fault! We didn't do nothin'! Some other guy just came up and raised the amount of CO2 in the atmosphere! We told him not to do it but he just laughed and ran off!"
[...] Revealed
Uh, yeah Scott, there ARE, in fact, billions of rich people in the world. Didn't you know that "rich" is defined as anyone making over $5,000 a year, according to liberals?
I wish you were right, Jen. Given the fact that these same alarmists claimed we were entering another Ice Age– due to human consumption, of course– back in the '80s, and never bothered to correct that false rumor, I'm highly skeptical there will be any admission of error. There's probably a passage in Rules for Radicals about never admitting you're wrong.
"Just think of how green and beautiful Mother Earth would be if we wiped out half of humanity. What a utopia!" People who think like this are the people with whom Obama surrounds himself.
we've had three so far (thanks to Dreamworks). Ice Age, Ice Age 2: The Meltdown, and this summer, Ice Age 3: Age of the Dinosaurs…
article: "Leipold said later in the BBC interview that there is an urgent need for the suppression of economic growth in the United States and around the world."
Rest assured, Leipold, Prez obama is working hard to make that dream come true.
Can't we all just realize that ALL of these organizations e.g. Greenpeace are about making $$$ $$$? I would venture to say that at least 95% of workers, volunteers, leaders, etc. are in it for the paycheck – and/or a climb up the ladder to promotion – a "place in the sun" so to speak!
[...] Revealed
[...] Revealed
THEY TOOK THEIR PLAY FROM FROM BUSH CHENEY OR WAS IT THE OTHER WAY AROUND.
greenpeace is a religion, nothing more, nothing less… with their own brand of dogma.
Big Hollywood your comment of "with a thickness of 3 km in the middle" where is your proof on that!! There was a team that went from Canada to the North Pole measuring ice thickness and they found mostly first year ice and the average was around 3m thick. There is more to global warming then just the amount of ice on the North Pole. There is Permafrost melting, Sea level rise, Drought "look that up in Google news", coral bleaching, dead zones in the gulf, Magnetic field of the earth moving"Why maybe because of ice mass displacement". CO2 and Methane is increasing and the only thing we don’t know for sure is the effect it will have on the planet. We can only go by the ice core samples taken and examined that show temperature has increased when the amount of CO2 increased. Every one will tell it is getting hotter. Some say it is a cycle and some say it will keeping going up untill bad things start happening.
[...] Revealed
HMMM, people in power lying and twisting the truth.
What a surprise.
Conservatives never lie or rearrange the truth to get what we want.
Conservatives are as pure as our religious beliefs.
That's why we can malign so eloquently anyone who disagrees with our conservative beliefs.
Thank you Jesus for making conservatives so perfect in every way.
[...] I have what’s left of my ass [...]
[...] Greenpeace leader admits group mislead on the melting of arctic ice. The outgoing leader of Greenpeace has admitted his organization’s recent claim that the Arctic Ice will disappear by 2030 was “a mistake.” Greenpeace made the claim in a July 15 press release entitled “Urgent Action Needed As Arctic Ice Melts,” which said there will be an ice-free Arctic by 2030 because of global warming. Under close questioning by BBC reporter Stephen Sackur on the “Hardtalk” program, Gerd Leipold, the retiring leader of Greenpeace, said the claim was wrong. “I don’t think it will be melting by 2030. … That may have been a mistake,” he said. [...]
[...] I never thought I’d see this. Great writeup on it at Big Hollywood about Greenpeace’s *cough* exaggeration [...]
[...] Revealed
Damn your good at this! Didn't even see that one when I wrote it…………..again I say, you never let a good setup go to waste………………
“The lifestyle of the rich in the world is not a sustainable model,” Leipold said. “If you take the lifestyle, its cost on the environment, and you multiply it with the billions of people and an increasing world population, you come up with numbers which are truly scary.”
Leipold proves that the Green movement is, at its core, anti-human. Notice how he doesn't zero in on the privileged few, but acknowledges the likelihood that increased industrialization will lift many people out of poverty in the third world, as it did in Europe. But he thinks the climate is so much more important. One really has to hate people to take such a view. Continue to live in squalor, Mr. Peasant, it's for a good cause.
Being an Oilman, I tired long ago of watching the Eco-Weenies fill up the Gas Tanks in their Toyota Land Cruisers to drive to the demonstration against me. Since the Arab Oil Embargo of 1973 they have been touting their "Magical Alternative Energy Machine" that seems to always be just around the corner, if only we stop using "Evil Halliburton" and XOM's Petroleum. It would seem by now that they, and the Government Lackeys at DOE would have developed something actually useful with the Hundreds of Billions of Taxdollars we have provided them with over the past 35 years to accomplish the task. In the mean time, I'm still out here in the Gulf of Mexico, drilling these holes………………
(slowly starts to put down and hide his CO2 canister…)
ahem… nothing to see here people… move along….
- man behind the curtain
Can we say "ouch"?
Why thank you, but in all honesty that was an easy one. I was just quicker on the draw that time.
I don't think your NORMAL everyday person believes all the crap that they try to hand out. However; they keep right on pushing their crap. Probably because they've all invested in these "green" companies. Nothing but BS pure and simple.
Has anyone told Hillary?
Are you kidding? Our new media is in their back pocket. It doesn't have the guts to stand up to anyone or any thing that has left wing leanings. Our reporters are to busy reading the teleprompters to actually go out in the field and find the truth.
True journalism in America is dead!! Every newscast is rife with bias and downright elitism. The Americans protesting health care are mobs or crazy. According to Pelosi, we are Nazis. If Nobama gets his way and we turn into a Marxist nation, the media will be the first to find out just what our freedoms meant when it is taken over by Castro, ur, I meant Nobama.
I applaud the BBC for finally standing firm against the lies and tactics of wacko Greenpeace.
I hope any American that sees this video will forward this to everyone they know.
It's time that the global warming lie be put to rest.
He's got the whole world in this scam (sung to Whole World in His Hand)
He says that Global Warming is because of man,
forget about the science, he'll help you understand
Inventor of the internet, He's the man,
He's got the whole world in this scam
If you step outside you'll get an instant tan,
Kill you off faster than than AIDs and Vietnam
We've got to buy the polar bears electric fans
He's got the whole world in this scam
I think he's got the jungles confused with Iran
Nothing left for tree huggers except for ash and sand
Just one more briggs and stratton and it's kablam
He's got the whole world in this scam
He wants to sell us golf carts, that's the plan
You can have a bicycle but no Trans-am
He'll get the United Nations to enforce the ban
He's got the whole world in this scam
Nah,, been stoned and didn't believe them then either!
[...] Posted by LCOF Big Hollywood Blog Archive EXCLUSIVE: Lies Revealed
[...] Posted by LCOF Big Hollywood Blog Archive EXCLUSIVE: Lies Revealed
the impoverished of the world dumping their excrement into a river pollutes a lot more than my municipal sewer treatment facility.
Will the last person who believes Greenpeace please turn out the light as you leave….in the interest of minimizing Global Warming?
Weather changes. Natural disaster is not a term coined after G.W. got elected. Trust your own eyes and the sensation on your own skin, people. Look at all the geological, astrological and meterological evidence. Go count the polar bears for yourself if you have to but stop panicking. Even if the climate were changing as the fearmongers would have us believe, it would be cheaper and more effective to change our infrastructure to aerodynamic cement and steel buildings in hurricane and tornado planes than turn America into a 3rd World Country. So what if we progressed to underground Hobbit and Planet of the Apes houses. Think of the reduction in heating, cooling and rebuilding costs around the world as well as the improved landscaping. I've moved on to organic rotational pasture (free range) farming to insulate my family and I from Obamanomics and it's actually fun while you work.
It's more like mass abortion. Why waste the time starving them when you can "head them off at the pass" if it were
They might be lying, but hey, it's for a good cause.
………..Right?
Quote: "Although he admitted Greenpeace had released inaccurate but alarming information, Leipold defended the organization’s practice of “emotionalizing issues” in order to bring the public around to its way of thinking and alter public opinion."
In other words… "We have lied in the past, will lie in the future, and we'll keep lying until everyone believes us."
We need a law allowing us to use these A-holes for target practice.
Obviously Obama is on board with the "urgent need for the suppression of economic growth in the United States". Obama is the Manchurian candidate. You could not do a better job undermining the US economy and producing long term stagnation if you deliberately tried.
[...] Hollywood has video of the outgoing leader of Greenpeace admitting — shocker! — that they cooked the books on at least one of their global warming predictions: The outgoing leader of [...]
And there is this announcement from this past April:
http://www.ens-newswire.com/ens/apr2009/2009-04-0...
“The prediction of an ice-free summer as early as 2013-2014 is "not totally out of the realm of possibility," Meier said. "Five years ago that suggestion would have been laughed out of the room, now scientists say it's very unlikely but possible."”
[...] Posted by LCOF Big Hollywood Blog Archive EXCLUSIVE: Lies Revealed
[...] some more recent lying, this time about Arctic ice. Big Hollywood Blog Archive EXCLUSIVE: Lies Revealed
[...] caught lying. Imagine that. Big Hollywood Blog Archive EXCLUSIVE: Lies Revealed — Greenpeace Leader Admits Arctic Ice Exag… Sackur said the claim was inaccurate on two fronts, pointing out that the Arctic ice is a mass of [...]
I think Leipold was confusing the Ice in his mixed drink with the Ice in Artica. Of course it melts, stupid! Then water refreezes when it gets colder…. Whata concept! Someone also needs to tell the smuck that the Artic Ice shelf actually expanded and thickened this year to surpass1992 levels. Where's that old 'Global Warming' when you need it? In Al Gore's expansive azz? Duh! Oh!
What a tool. Notice these scare mongers don't weep over the antarctic ice sheet any more: because it's advancing at an alarming rate.
[...] they were lying. EXCLUSIVE: Lies Revealed
It's all okay, though. Greenpeace has purchased Truth Offsets for its press releases. Some guy in India is going to be extra truthful tomorrow.
[...] Big Hollywood » Blog Archive » EXCLUSIVE: Lies Revealed — Greenpeace Leader Admits Arctic Ice Ex… Although he admitted Greenpeace had released inaccurate but alarming information, Leipold defended the organization’s practice of “emotionalizing issues” in order to bring the public around to its way of thinking and alter public opinion. [...]
Al Gore is nothing but a lying scumbag !! He used this global warming scam to line is pockets with warm cash. Now you see his fat arse flying around the world on private jets, Living in a huge mansion and living the good life. He is the ultimate con man or flim flam artist.
[...] admits his lie- It’s a start. Cram this down Algore’s throat. Don’t forget Waxman and Pelosi. Big Hollywood
"The lifestyle of the rich in the world is not a sustainable model,” Leipold said. “If you take the lifestyle, its cost on the environment, and you multiply it with the billions of people and an increasing world population, you come up with numbers which are truly scary.”
Well Leipold, you could gather your liar buddies up in to your BMW and find a wall to hit at high speed. That would subtract four or five "rich people" from the equation right away…
Greenpeace and Global Warming Nazi's lying? Oh my god! Say it ain't so………Note to the Eco-nuts. I'm still waiting for the "Next Ice Age" you screamed about in the 70's…..waiting…..waiting……waiting…….?
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At least a major green leader finally admits their ultimate goal is to keep the 3rd world poor and in service of the rest of the world. The rest of us all knew this, now it's in the open.
Al Gore's hypocrisy is so blatant that he does not have a carbon footprint, it should be described as his carbon skidmark on the linens of scientific integrity. It would be humorous if not for the real damage that western society will suffer by buying his snake oil.
Agrarians? The closest we have to agrarians are the farmers and they don't worship nature; they subdue it with mechanization and technology. Because of them, we eat. The greenies leave the farmers shaking their heads and rolling their eyes. Farmers know "out of touch" when they see it.
The useful idiots on the Left might worship nature while parroting the party line. The ones that aren't stupid are hustlers that have found a way to tap the public till. The "end" that justifies their lying "means" is their personal accumulation of power, prestige and money.
so… issues have to be "emotionalized" to get the dummies to fall in line, eh ? that's certainly a mouthful !
Crazy stuff isn't it? I was telling Mabel just the other day, "Mabel, wouldn't it be great if we could get all the carbon offsets we wanted at an affordable price?" Then Mabel says to me, "Why Jimmy, all you have to do is go to free carbon offsets dot com, and you can get all the carbon offsets you want for free!" "For free?" I exclaimed. "Yes!" Go there yourself and see.
http://www.freecarbonoffsets.com
You will be glad you did.
First: I am not a fan of Greenpeace or the global-warming zealots. I am skeptical (or, as they like to say: a "denier").
But… the figures cited in the article for the Arctic ice pack (technically, since it's floating in the ocean and not "capping" anything, it should be called "sea ice" or "pack ice") are wrong. I don't know whether the writers are accurately quoting strange numbers from the BBC guy in the interview (I haven't watched the clip) or whether they misunderstood or mis-transcribed what they heard, but the numbers in the article appear to be not just wrong, but wildly, completely-outside-the ballpark wrong.
Consult any source you think of as independent and trustworthy: a standard, recent encyclopedia; a college geology textbook. or whatever. You'll see that the extent of the Arctic ice pack varies between about 9 Million Square Kilometers (in summer, when it shrinks) up to about 13 Million Square Kilometers in the winter (when it expands). For very rough ballpark purposes, let's say it averages 10 Million Square Kilometers, to make the arithmetic easy.
The average thickness is between 2 and 4 Meters (NOT kilometers) depending on time of year. (Even in the thickest spots, it's rarely more than 10 Meters, max.) Call it 3 Meters on average over a year.
The numbers cited in the article — area of 1.6 million square kilometers and maximum thickness of 3 Kilometers — are off by a factor of five for the first and a factor of one thousand for the second. Something is wrong here.
So, I don't know what to say. I want to support the skeptics, because I think there are good reasons to be very skeptical of the global-warming claims. But you don't get to make up your own facts. I'm not a scientist, so I may be missing something. But as far as I know, the sun is (about) 93 million miles away, the moon is (about) 240 thousand miles away, and the average size of the Arctic ice pack in recent decades is (about) 10 million square kilometers. If somebody else has better information, I would be glad to hear it.
– JCL
Just the way to win friends and sway them to your way of seeing things. LIE TO THEM! Yeah, that'll build trust.
"There was a team that went from Canada to the North Pole measuring ice thickness and they found mostly first year ice and the average was around 3m thick"
Oh, Jesus, that crew of idiots who nearly got themselves killed while spot-measuring ice with a tape measure? Ever look up who sponsored that stunt? Yep- four carbon-credit trading firms. Hmmmm…..
1. There is no sea level rise. Nils-Axel Mörner says so, formerly chairman of the INQUA International Commission on Sea Level Change, and there is no person on earth who knows more about the subject. "The sea is not rising," he says. "It hasn't risen in 50 years." The claim of carbon-spurred rising sea levels is "the greatest lie ever told," quoth Dr. Mörner
2. The correlation between CO2 and annual deposition in the glacial cores shows that CO2 levels *trailed* warming by an average of 700 yers. Oopsie, Al!
3."CO2 and Methane is increasing and the only thing we don’t know for sure is the effect it will have on the planet" — ROFL!! There you're absolutely right. We don't know, and anyone who claims he does is lying.
Stop listening to the alarmists and their propaganda. The atmosphere is a mind-bogglingly complex dynamic system of multiple variables which we can't yet begin to analyze, much less model. These fairy stories based on a trace gas (0.00038 of the atmosphere) would be silly were there not such a skilful PR operation pushing it.
Even weirder… all the textbooks I remember reading said it was between 2 and 4 kilometers thick, not meters. There's even an online textbook that says this, backed up with sources: http://hypertextbook.com/facts/2000/MaySy.shtml
Not that you should believe anything you see on the internet, but now I'm wondering. Which of the two measurements is correct? Obviously they can't BOTH be right… unless the ice thinning has been even more pronounced than we thought.
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[...] the opposite end of the scientific integrity spectrum, we have the retiring head of Greenpeace, Gerd Leipold, admitting that his organization’s [...]
Tatterdemalian:
Thanks for the input. Looking at the link you cite, there are several brief quotes pulled from various sources. Several refer specifically to either the Antarctic ice cap (or "ice sheet" — same thing), or to the Greenland ice sheet. In the case of Antarctica, it appears that the ice cap is, indeed, thousands of meters thick (not just 3 or 4 meters). The one that doesn't refer specifically to the Antarctic or Greenland is ambiguous. Not clear what region is meant.
In the main body of the page it says specifically: "The greatest ever measured thickness of the Antarctic ice is more than 4,770 meters thick!" (i.e., 4.8 kilometers.)
That's probably correct. But they're talking about the South Pole, not the North Pole. Whole different thing. A continental ice cap is not the same as an oceanic ice pack.
As you know, the U.S. Navy routinely operates submarines under the Arctic ice pack (and has done since the 1950s). If the ice pack, on average, extends thousands of meters down into the Arctic Ocean, doesn't that imply that our subs are operating at depths of thousands of meters below sea-level? The Navy has a one-of-a-kind research sub — USS Dolphin [see: http://www.eoearth.org/article/Arctic_Ocean by Prof P.D.N. Hebert of University of Guelph in Canada. He says that the thickest spots in the Arctic ice are 50 Meters (not 10, as I suggested). But that's still way, way less than 5 kilometers (i.e., 5 thousand meters). Smaller by a factor of one hundred. He also mentions that the floor of the Arctic Ocean is about 3 to 5 kilometers below the ocean surface. If any of the ice is 5 kilometers thick, then it either sticks up hundreds of feet above water level (which it doesn't) or extends deeper than the ocean floor, which it can't.
And Prof Hebert agrees that the area of the Arctic ice pack is in the neighborhood of 9 to13 million square kilometers, depending on the time of year. Not the much, much smaller 1.6 million square kilometers cited in the article.
The BBC interview, according to the Big Hollywood article above, talks specifically about the Arctic, not the Antarctic. It's possible that the writers or the people in the clip were confused or misspoke, mixing up Arctic and Antarctic. It's easy enough to do. That would make the thickness number look more correct (Antarctic ice is indeed several kilometers thick, not just a few meters). But the area of the Antarctic ice cap is about 13.7 million square kilometers (per the CIA Fact Book). Again, way, way bigger than the 1.6 million square meters cited by the article. The article numbers don't seem to correspond to reality in any obvious way.
(And, yes, as another poster said, the Antarctic ice cap is definitely getting bigger, not smaller. A point that is carefully ignored in the media.)
The point is not to get all anal about some measurements. The point is that if you're a global-warming skeptic you can't make mistakes like that in public. We expect Al Gore to repeat whatever the voices in his head say to him be applauded for his wisdom. His opponents can't.
We would jeer (quite correctly) at Global Warmers who scramble their stats, or who couldn't distinguish between the North Pole, South Pole and Greenland. Skeptics, since they are presented in the mass media as ignoramuses, need to be just that much more scrupulous.
Again, I'm not a scientist and I could be wrong. But the numbers cited in the article still look weird to me. I invite correction if somebody's got better info.
- JCL
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The doomsday is very real..regardless of how comfortable you feel distanting yourself from the "greenies" and BBC'S "parrotting." …..Next time you use tissue paper think about it…and how many you will use in you lifetime…
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Spreading lies in order to stop economic growth? To alter thing's -like energy- prices?
It seems clearly to be a crime.
Know people at prison for far less…
The paycheck is probably not that great for most of them… but I'd like to see a demographic profile of the employees of Greenpeace and its ilk. I'd be willing to bet big money (the kind that makes my carbon footprint deadly, deadly I say, to the polar bears) that they're all either in their 20s (today's extended adolescence – I grew up as that phenomenon was taking hold, and my own brother and sister lived at home until they were 26 and 28[?!]) and high on righteousness, as adolescents will tend to be, or in their 50s and 60s, having come of age in the high-on-righteousness 1960s and the just-plain-high 1970s.
It's about the power. The power of being MORALLY RIGHT. Anybody remember that old M.J. Fox vehicle Family Ties? Wherein Fox was a Young Republican and his parents were semi-grown-up hippies, alternating between being bemused and horrified at what their loins had produced? The dad, IIRC, worked for a public TV station and was entirely secure in his own moral rightness, making much less money than his donors but living an "authentic" life.
I'm thinking Thomas_Talionis might've meant "agrarian reformers," that trope phrase used for – was it South American Marxists?
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Right there with you Primer! My motto for all of these stupid liberal decrees as to what "we" must do to combat whatever the crisis of the day is: YOU FIRST!
If man made global warming was really a certain threat, scientists would be camping out and pounding on the doors of congress, both parties would be banding together to stop it. And the proponents of this claim would be screaming that we're all going to die. Instead they do a documentary every couple of years and have fundraisers where they talk about how smart they are. If a Meteor was heading straight for earth, do you think the astronomers would be as blase as these man made global warming types. If you can't convince everyone your theory probably needs work.
One of the markers of sociopaths is the disregard for the damage to their credibility with others when caught knowingly propagating a falsehood.
If you read the web article (http://www.greenpeace.org/international/news/urge... Stephen Sackur pulled the question from, you can see Greenpeace is talking about SEA ice, not all the arctic ice.
Actually, GP has already put something up pointing this out: http://weblog.greenpeace.org/makingwaves/archives...
If everyone checked the facts (including the BBC journo behind this) more often rather than taking denier spin as gospel then we'd be having far more rational debate about how to deal with climate change.
[...] EXCLUSIVE: Lies Revealed — Greenpeace Leader Admits Arctic Ice Exaggeration [...]
[...] a scientific issue if they think it will help their cause. People who actually believe in science would call that lying. Leipold’s admission that Greenpeace issued misleading information is a major embarrassment to [...]
[...] the eco-terrorist organization, has admitted lying about disappearing Arctic Ice. Video at the [...]
I compare the science of global warming to the science that once told us the world was flat! There is no scientific evidence to verify that WE are the cause of any warming of the planet…it has been scientifically proven that the planet has warmed and cooled many many times during the 4-5 Billion years of its existence, most of which happened without humans! The sun has a much larger impact on our temperature than we do…but I guess when the global cooling wasn't effective enough to benefit the government several decades ago they had to move in a new direction!
The two of you are talking about two different things. Freebootrr, you are referring to the floating ice pack in the Arctic Ocean. What the BBC clip was referring to was the continental ice pack on Greenland, which is indeed up to four km. thick. Greenpeace's notion that this ice pack could melt by 2030 or so is utterly absurd. The sun only puts out a well defined quantity of energy. Even with the temperatures raised according to the most catastrophic projections, it still takes about 10,000 years to melt all that ice. Water has very high specific heat, and it takes a lot of energy to melt it.
Be happy my dears, telling your old stories each other, but next generations will remember about your as "the idiots that spoiled the world". It's no matter of left or right, is matter of survival. Watch the sky, hardheaded, I don't see the same blue of 10 years ago.
Nice evasion but quite wrong, as I suspected when your Greenpeace link was a dud. Yes, the greensleaze have indeed made absurd claims about Greenland, namely this:
"Greenland and Antarctic ice sheet melting. Unless checked, warming from emissions may trigger the irreversible meltdown of the Greenland ice sheet in the coming decades, which would add up to seven meters of sea-level rise, over some centuries; there is new evidence that the rate of ice discharge from parts of the Antarctic mean that it is also at risk of meltdown."
Which came from this:
http://www.greenpeace.org/international/campaigns...
Oh, and by the way, what's the sea level change from the melting of floating sea ice?
OMG! The Polar bears are going to live!
Global warming is the biggest fraud to ever be made mainstream. When a movement is backed by Hollywood and celebrities… you can pretty much guarantee that it's a load of crap. The go green movement is wearing itself thin. I hope Prissy Prius drivers can hold on to their self-satisfaction for a bit longer… down with the global warming movement.
They say the word hippy is derived from the word hypocrite. No place can it be realized and proved than on the show whale wars. I recommend people read the following article and watch the footage of the peace full hippies ramming the law abiding Japanese Yushin Maru. Funny enough the article was even in the Huntington Post!
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/richard-spilman/wha...
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Arctic ice is 3Km. thick?
[...] Don’t worry, the outgoing leader of Greenpeace is off the hook, because he’s not a Republican or conservative in any way, shape, or form. He’s another far left-wing “scientist” who lies or at least accepts that lies are OK if it means convincing people to change the world to suit his wacky world view. So it’s OK, Jack, and CBC, you can keep reciting speeches provided by Greenpeace! (And we know you will!) EXCLUSIVE: Lies Revealed — Greenpeace Leader Admits Arctic Ice Exaggeration [...]
Do you think that rat faced little runt Henry Waxman will investigate the 77 billion that was appropriated by our government to fund the IPCC UN frauds and the countless scientific grants that came up with this hoax. If he does'nt, we should call for a panel to investigate his sorry little ass. Gore should give back the nobel prize as it was a complete left wing fraud.
If Greenpeace spent even a fraction of its time and resources contributing to the encouragement and development of alternative energies rather than devoting all their efforts to mere political theatre and trying to garofalo the public, then the "truly scary" numbers that Squeezix here and his buddies came up with would never materialize in the future. His acumen in "numbers" is as strong as his knowledge of nature and historic environmental trends anyway. But then, productive contribution is not the modern-day Liberal method of discourse or action in any arena. Endless uninformed protest, ridicule and threats toward people who disagree with them, and damage to property are the way of the day for them. These are misguided drama-loving attention-starved hooligans, little more.
Well, as you (and the article we're commenting on) said, it is pretty important to get the measurements right for people who want to make a realistic assessment of environmental changes that we are potentially about to wreck our economy over. Your point makes a lot of sense of the conflicting data I've been picking up on the internet, though, so I'll go with your assessment, and grumble about writers who don't clarify whether they're talking about the floating ice pack or grounded glaciers when discussing sheet thickness.
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"Leipold said later in the BBC interview that there is an urgent need for the suppression of economic growth in the United States and around the world."
These morons want everybody to suffer. "The urgent need for the SUPPRESSION of economic growth????? WTF………….
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[...] groups braying about the arctic ice melting by that year. Greenpeace now disavows that claim. In a BBC interview, retiring Greenpeace leader Gerd Leipold admitted, “I don’t think it [...]
Ah you retardicans love to latch on to anything like this, don't ya? You do realize that most "credible" scientific research doesn't have anything to do with "Green Peace", right? Tell ya what, do a google search on global warming. I bet you the only reference to Green Peace on the first page will be regarding this "news". In other words, while morons like to locate questionable sources that help promote their personal views, the truly enlightened among the world are able to discount idiots like this guy in Green Peace, as well as people like you. Cheers,
Anyone remember when we were supposed to be afraid of "Global Cooling" in the 1970-80s? That got ditched when we had a few years of warming in a row and then "EUREKA"! it was Global Warming and Greenhouse effect.
Now it's just Climate Change. OMG..the CLIMATE CHANGES! Who da thunk it?
Say hello to my leetle friend–the Sun, the climate changer…lol…
This is exactly why we made Not Evil Just Wrong. This kind of alarmist tendency is…well alarming. We need to get to make this information common knowledge. Please check out Not Evil Just Wrong and consider hosting a party.
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there not lying, its not the full video and your a fuckwit for not caring about your planet
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Ever since it was founded, I think Greenpeace has done a terrific job at saving our environment and this is just a scandal to make it blow up in their face. If you happen to do a little research, lobbyists and coal companies are pushing the limits and even forging letters to congress to persuade it -not- to do something about climate change, which in the end will impact ALL of us. Grant it, many Greenpeace campaigns appeal to the emotional side of human nature, but then again, WHAT product doesn't? It's called an advertising strategy! Greenpeace has guts, will and empowerment and I think their work is beautiful and challenging, despite what ignorants may say.
Greenpeace has been engaging in scare tactics for decades. It's so bad that one of its founders, Patrick Moore, has roundly condemned the practices. He's one of the key figures in "Not Evil Just Wrong." Buy the movie and hear what he has to say about the practice of exaggerating the truth and "emotionalizing issues" in order to win a fight for jobs-killing regulations: http://www.noteviljustwrong.com/shop.
[...] Greenpeace Leader Admits Arctic Ice Exaggeration Says that it was “a mistake” to claim that the Arctic would be ice-free by 2030. [...]
Don't think like that PLEASE. Just because he said to defend the planet and he is not doing it himself, it doesn't mean you need to follow him…The decisions do matter, and it's YOUR (and everyone else) decision to protect or not this planet. Don't put the excuses on the others…It's about yourself and the love you have and can share with everyone, nature and the planet.
Guys, GreenPeace told this was a misunderstood. READ IT HERE: http://weblog.greenpeace.org/makingwaves/archives...
[...] Tell me it isn’t so. Turns out the Artic ice won’t all be gone by 2030 because of global warming and this Greenpeace leader admits saying so was a “mistake.” [...]
RT @ envirospace Greenpeace admits BBC got it wrong about arctic sea ice: http://bit.ly/LAOgh
Hey Everyone. How can things when are to put down a person, or are moved by greed, can be spreaded out really fast?…
EVERYONE makes a mistake. Who knows this sentence: "to err is human"? Everyone has the right to make some errors, although it was not a mistake, but YES a misunderstood by the media, and now by everyone that is watching this.
GreenPeace has informed all their subscribers that it was a bad interpretation by the media, and that global warming is not gone, it is still there and will always get worse if we don't stop doing what we're doing wrong. Or wait, what the big compannies want us to do. But YET we have all the right to make our own decisions, and is you, me and everyone that decide what we want for our future, and our home's future (for the ones that still consider this world home). Don't go by other's opinion, follow your heart, and I hope you choose the right decision. Mine is already picked up, and is do everything that will bring PEACE, FRATERNITY, LOVE, CARE, LOVE for NATURE and all the animals, in which we all can live together as if we were all from the beggining a family. And by what I know, consumption won't get us anywhere. I believe that the world is infinite in love, and on all the good things, and that nature will always be on our side, but still destroying everything that the world has better is not the way, and like we are right now, not recycling simple things, that if we really think about it, will on the future be a problem (like if they weren't already one right now…).
I don't want to get this to extense, so do your own opinions, and search/think alot about what you read. REMEMBER everything that you're told about, not always is the truth. You need to follow your hearth and believe on the right persons and thoughts.
With much LOVE, and in a hope for a better future FOR ALL, in which everyone deserves,
Rui Pedro, aka Jakejus1
PS: Greenpeace subscribers' newsletter link: http://weblog.greenpeace.org/makingwaves/archives...
PS2: The money doesn't bring hapiness. That's a fake thought that has been passing around by all kinds of ways. EVERYONE just wants to live in peace and we all should work for it. WORK HARD FOR PEACE, NOT FOR MONEY, which WILL NEVER BRING PEACE, JUST GREED…
Hey Everyone. How can things when are to put down a person, or are moved by greed, can be spreaded out really fast?…
EVERYONE makes a mistake. Who knows this sentence: "to err is human"? Everyone has the right to make some errors, although it was not a mistake, but YES a misunderstood by the media, and now by everyone that is watching this.
GreenPeace has informed all their subscribers that it was a bad interpretation by the media, and that global warming is not gone, it is still there and will always get worse if we don't stop doing what we're doing wrong. Or wait, what the big compannies want us to do. But YET we have all the right to make our own decisions, and is you, me and everyone that decide what we want for our future, and our home's future (for the ones that still consider this world home). Don't go by other's opinion, follow your heart, and I hope you choose the right decision. Mine is already picked up, and is do everything that will bring PEACE, FRATERNITY, LOVE, CARE, LOVE for NATURE and all the animals, in which we all can live together as if we were all from the beggining a family. And by what I know, consumption won't get us anywhere. I believe that the world is infinite in love, and on all the good things, and that nature will always be on our side, but still destroying everything that the world has better is not the way, and like we are right now, not recycling simple things, that if we really think about it, will on the future be a problem (like if they weren't already one right now…).
I don't want to get this to extense, so do your own opinions, and search/think alot about what you read. REMEMBER everything that you're told about, not always is the truth. You need to follow your hearth and believe on the right persons and thoughts.
With much LOVE, and in a hope for a better future FOR ALL, in which everyone deserves,
Rui Pedro, aka Jakejus1
PS: Greenpeace subscribers' newsletter link: http://weblog.greenpeace.org/makingwaves/archives...
PS2: The money doesn't bring hapiness. That's a fake thought that has been passing around by all kinds of ways. EVERYONE just wants to live in peace and we all should work for it. WORK HARD FOR PEACE, NOT FOR MONEY, which WILL NEVER BRING PEACE, JUST GREED…
Nice suggestion. We are the ones that lead the way to anything. We ALL TOGETHER are the ones that chose what we want for our world. Therefore, we can make greenpeace use their resources to build clean energy. However, I think I know why she keeps the money and focus on the political issues. Government and the big companies have the power (or should I say, the money) to do anything. And for sure, they don't want much clean energy around to take the money out of them.
There have been really nice eletric cars, much better than the ones being sold, that have been destroyed by the power of the big companies. Just check BrasscheckTV.com. We have everything to transform this world in a green environment, the problem is that there is some people that believe that money is more important than love and peace and hapiness, which for sure they also seek, but mistakenly by the wrong course.
Peace and love to everyone,
Rui Pedro aka Jakejus1
You are so right!
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Interesting. So the calculation was wrong. So it is not true that Arctic Ice will disappear in 2030? Very good.
Ok. May be it will disappear by 2060 or 2100. But who cares? By that time most of us will be dead and our sons probably won't notice the difference.
I don't really understand why greenies keep bothering us about this Greenhouse effect…
I DO first. I recycle everything they will take, use low flow shower heads, drive my car only a few days a week, walk to work and most places, buy local organic, use canvas bags, avoid buying anything in plastic packaging whenever I can…. the list goes on. My reach is smaller than Al Gore's. I WANT him to have a larger carbon footprint than mine and fly to places like Copenhagen (for the global climate conference) because when HE knocks at the door of the U.N. or of corporate companies, they are going to pay a great deal more attention than if it was me. I do my best to offset his carbon. What are YOU doing?
Scott R., I DO first. I recycle everything they will take, use low flow shower heads, drive my car only a few days a week, walk to work and most places, buy local organic, use canvas bags, avoid buying anything in plastic packaging whenever I can…. the list goes on. My reach is smaller than Al Gore's. I WANT him to have a larger carbon footprint than mine and fly to places like Copenhagen (for the global climate conference) because when HE knocks at the door of the U.N. or of corporate companies, they are going to pay a great deal more attention than if it was me. I do my best to offset his carbon. What are YOU doing?
Do you not realize that the fossil fuel industry is lying to you? If Greenpeace is exaggerating, the coal, petroleum and plastic industries are downright fabricating data to keep you buying gas, shopping with plastic bags, and powering your home with coal blasted from mountaintop removal mine sites. If you are worried about Greenpeace making money, why aren't you upset at the multi-billionaires in these industries?
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This whole story is a lie.
http://scienceblogs.com/deltoid/2009/08/shoddy_jo...
Any yes you are all fools for believing anything you read on brietbart.
The obvious solution to coal fired electrical generation plants is Nuclear generation. I assume the Greenpeace will soon support Nuclear Generation to help reduce our carbon footprint?
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[...] Easy AdSense by UnrealIn this truly outstanding video clip from over at Big Hollywood, a British interviewer nails the retiring leader of Greenpeace, [...]
[...] UnrealIn this truly outstanding video clip from over at Big Hollywood, a British interviewer nails the [...]
[...] truly outstanding video clip from over at Big Hollywood, a British interviewer nails the retiring leader of Greenpeace, Gerd [...]
[...] tienen mucho más fácil. Me refiero, claro está, al líder de GreenPeace, que no tuvo empacho en inventarse una fecha bastante cercana para el deshielo total de la Antartida. Lo malo de esto, es que cuando se destapa el chanchullo, lo que queda no es que un tipo líder de [...]
[...] McAleer & Ann McElhinney, Big Hollywood: EXCLUSIVE: Lies Revealed — Greenpeace Leader Admits Arctic Ice Exaggeration and Greenpeace Urges ‘Astroturfing’ to Counter Revelation of Lies Vocal Minority: Greenpeace [...]
[...] top of that, the Hockey Stick has been questioned and Greenpeace admitted exaggerating claims that Arctic ice would melt by 2030. Now that science is back in its rightful place in policy-making, will the Obama [...]
The planet is my toilet, and you live on my planet. What does that say about you?
NEWSFLASH: Greenpeace is a mistake.
[...] an August 2009 post, Phelim McAleer & Ann McElhinney, Big Hollywood: EXCLUSIVE: Lies Revealed — Greenpeace Leader Admits Arctic Ice Exaggeration …The BBC reporter accused Leipold and Greenpeace of releasing “misleading information” [...]
[...] Mungkin banyak yang belum mengetahui bahwa pada tahun 2007, pengadilan Inggris telah memutuskan bahwa film “An Inconvenient Truth” berisi 11 kesalahan mendasar dan memutuskan apabila film itu ingin dipertontonkan, maka 11 kesalahan itu harus disinggung sebelumnya.(newsbuster.org) Bulan Agustus 2009 kemarin, pemimpin organisasi Greenpeace, Gerd Leipold, mengakui di depan wartawan BBC bahwa klaim yang mereka sebarkan lewat press release di bulan Juli 2009 bahwa es Arktik akan mencair total pada tahun 2030 adalah klaim yang salah. Ia mengakui bahwa Greenpeace telah berbohong dengan tujuan untuk lebih menggugah para pemimpin dunia. (breitbart.com) [...]
[...] decades, despite (or even, perhaps, because of) the increases in carbon dioxide concentrations. The Arctic ice, said to be vanishing, may not be. According to a recent study, vector borne diseases (malaria, [...]
[...] decades, despite (or even, perhaps, because of) the increases in carbon dioxide concentrations. The Arctic ice, said to be vanishing, may not be. According to a recent study, vector borne diseases (malaria, [...]
The health care reform is not about health, is all about more taxes and more control. Attack their weakness and break the bipartisan stranglehold? It’s about all we have left. Register Independent (Indies). The biggest fears the Politicians have are: not being re-elected, term limits, tax revolts and loss of power. Bipartisan politics does not work. Why not register for 1. More candidate voices and 2. MORE VOTER CHOICES?
If we don’t come together, we may be doomed.
If not you then- whom? If not today- then when?
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[...] Lies Revealed — Greenpeace Leader Admits Arctic Ice Exaggeration http://bighollywood.breitbart.com/amcelhinney/2009/08/19/exclusive-lies-revealed-greenpeace-leader-a... [...]
The Global Warming scandal is the single biggest lie ever conceived by anyone. Gore, Obama, plus the scientists who have lied for financial gain … should be put on trial for treason…this is about the financial destruction of the United States…if Obama signs the treaty that he intends to sign this month in Copenhagen, he will be turning over the sovereignty of the United States to a world government whether it is legal or not …even though Global Warming has been a contrived for profits scheme, the truth is still being hidden because the media is so far left they are approaching insanity… Fox News being the exception…. this Global Warming thing is not going away because off the mainstream media… they are not concerned with the truth and if you present it they will try to hide from view… they are idiots….How much money will this Global Warming generate — 3 trillion dollars in the first 3 years (this is the new commodity market – Cap and Trade Credits- which will exceed in value all the other commodity markets combined)… Gore will become enormously wealthy and Obama will buy the 2012 election.. this is most dangerous time in US history… these people are evil – they are scaring little children and teaching doomsday lies so they can be rich… Obama is not stupid – he is evil…
[...] Lies Revealed – Greenpeace Leader Admits Arctic Ice Exaggeration [...]
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