EXCLUSIVE: Lies Revealed — Greenpeace Leader Admits Arctic Ice Exaggeration
by Phelim McAleer & Ann McElhinneyThe outgoing leader of Greenpeace has admitted his organization’s recent claim that the Arctic Ice will disappear by 2030 was “a mistake.” Greenpeace made the claim in a July 15 press release entitled “Urgent Action Needed As Arctic Ice Melts,” which said there will be an ice-free Arctic by 2030 because of global warming.
Under close questioning by BBC reporter Stephen Sackur on the “Hardtalk” program, Gerd Leipold, the retiring leader of Greenpeace, said the claim was wrong.
“I don’t think it will be melting by 2030. … That may have been a mistake,” he said.
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Sackur said the claim was inaccurate on two fronts, pointing out that the Arctic ice is a mass of 1.6 million square kilometers with a thickness of 3 km in the middle, and that it had survived much warmer periods in history than the present.
The BBC reporter accused Leipold and Greenpeace of releasing “misleading information” and using “exaggeration and alarmism.”
Leipold’s admission that Greenpeace issued misleading information is a major embarrassment to the organization, which often has been accused of alarmism but has always insisted that it applies full scientific rigor in its global-warming pronouncements.
Although he admitted Greenpeace had released inaccurate but alarming information, Leipold defended the organization’s practice of “emotionalizing issues” in order to bring the public around to its way of thinking and alter public opinion.
Leipold said later in the BBC interview that there is an urgent need for the suppression of economic growth in the United States and around the world. He said annual growth rates of 3 percent to 8 percent cannot continue without serious consequences for the climate.
“We will definitely have to move to a different concept of growth. … The lifestyle of the rich in the world is not a sustainable model,” Leipold said. “If you take the lifestyle, its cost on the environment, and you multiply it with the billions of people and an increasing world population, you come up with numbers which are truly scary.”
(You can watch the full BBC interview with Leipold here, and to learn more about Greenpeace-style global warming hysteria and its potential toll on the American dream, go to www.noteviljustwrong.com, the Web site for the forthcoming documentary “Not Evil Just Wrong,” by Phelim McAleer and Ann McElhinney.)
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Hmm things must not be going well for the "Greenies" when even the BBC is questioning the truthfulness of Climate Scientists; considering that the BBC spent the past decade parroting climate science doomsday rhetoric.
Me thinks the Climate Change thing is about to implode.
Are there billions of rich people in the world? I tell you what; as soon as algore gives up his private jets and mansions I'll start reducing my carbon footprint.
Finally, a concession that may lead towards truth. Hopefully others in the forefront of the Warming movement will take steps to admit they were wrong as well, and we can finally be done with the chaos and doomsday scenarios…as well as squiggly lightbulbs.
….only the stoned or truly stupid believed them…..
Well, the ends justify the means doesn't it?
Idiot.
Although the new anti-global-warming-hysteria film is called "Not Evil Just Wrong," I have to disagree: many of these people, including Greenpeace as an organization, are just plain evil. They flat out lie about things and this is just the latest example.
One can only hope this will lead to more American news outlets questioning organizations like Greenpeace, but I'm not expecting it any time soon.
Greenpeace is amazing… they convince people that they are the ones doing the right thing, but actually, they are the ones not telling the truth or the whole story. What a bunch of manipulators and trying to play off of people's emotions since they know their facts dont support what is actually happening.
They should not only be ashamed of themselves, but they should stop all of this alarmism of global warming, which they dont actually say anymore since it is not happening. They, because they and most other environmentalist know they are wrong, now conveniently say 'climate change' rather than global warming.
But, as shown here, when push comes to shove, the do admit it… bravo… but now they should really admit it and get it over with and saves millions of lives. I challenge, and we should all ask for this, Greenpeace to admit that their recent claim about the arctic ice was incorrect. They need to go on the record. We all deserve the truth, so Greenpeace … stop the lies.
Funny when you consider their donors are the very type of people the organization feels are immoral and wrong. Of course, we mean just those wealthy types who don't feel guilty about it and give us money.
Well, I can say it is just another LIEING LEFTY!!!
Where to go as an anti-capitalist after communism failed circa 1989? Easy, the environmental movement.
Standard methodology of radical environmentalists. Gross exaggeration to get support and bargain their position. Sort of like when you want X amount for services, so ask for X+10% to have some wiggle room. I was at a conference of "sustainable" building way back in my college days (yep, green and "liberal" back then) and one of the presenters matter of fact stated they need to exaggerate to get the concessions they want from the capitalists. Oh, to be young and naive. What they didn't talk about is how those evil capitalists have, whether intentionally or not, improved the standard of living of people in the poorest parts of the world. So sure while some people live better than others, the poor are living better lives also. But that's not the issue, it is "equality" isn't it? Even if the "equality" isn't really equal and causes stagnation, lack of true progress, even reversal of living conditions. No thanks, I'd prefer the evil capitalists and free trade, I'm a true liberal (for freedom) and progressive (for progress)
Sadly, the lefties will ignore, or find a way to spin even this stunning admission…..Normal people, though, will give no credibility whatsoever to organizations like greenpeace, who peddle propaganda for a living, the very definition of which includes "Emotionalizing issues" like protecting the environment……
"I'm, shocked, shocked to find that there is gambling in this establishment!"
“The lifestyle of the rich in the world is not a sustainable model,”
Wow, does that include the GREEN MAN himself Al Gore?
How will the Greenies and Al Gore Carbon off-set this?
Jeepers! Does this mean that those "rich and Famous" (i.e.. Paris Hilton, Ben Affleck, Matt Damon, Leo DiCaprio, etc.) have to curb their lifestyles or will the environmentalist greenies practice selectivity for those who tryreal hard or simply talk a good game about such concerns? The world has truly gone nuts. God help us all!
Is there Anything that these whack jobs say that is actually TRUTH? Are they ALL in Al Gore, Nancy Pelosi and T Boon Pickens pockets?
Hmmmm, what to believe, what to believe. Definitely no one from the left that's for sure.
Pity those folks who actually sent money to the world wildlife foundation, who shed tears at the sight of a polar bear standing on a lonely block of arctic ice. (which you will see every summer by the way). Their money only went to pay the photographers to go back up there and take MORE heart-wrenching photos, not to save any polar bears. God, some people are so stupid and can't figure out where to put their money.
[...] From Big Hollywood: The outgoing leader of Greenpeace has admitted his organization’s recent claim that the Arctic Ice will disappear by 2030 was “a mistake.” Greenpeace made the claim in a July 15 press release entitled “Urgent Action Needed As Arctic Ice Melts,” which said there will be an ice-free Arctic by 2030 because of global warming. [...]
Ayn Rand's "The New Left: The Anti-Industrial Revolution" warned of this c 1971.
They don't even really care about equality. Many of them really want mass starvation (exempting themselves of course).
[...] Read it. The outgoing leader of Greenpeace has admitted his organization’s recent claim that the Arctic Ice will disappear by 2030 was “a mistake.” Greenpeace made the claim in a July 15 press release entitled “Urgent Action Needed As Arctic Ice Melts,” which said there will be an ice-free Arctic by 2030 because of global warming. [...]
There is? Oh! My! God!
Remember the old global warming? When CFC's were going to destroy the world? Turns out DuPont's patent on CFC's was merely running out which meant that they could be produced in developing nations for a severe fraction of the cost.
So we banned CFC's and instead we use DuPont's new (patented) version. And saved the world. Why didn't we throw a parade.
The Left are agrarians so naturally they worship nature. It is a religion. A means of controlling a mass of people. And getting rich in the process.
That's why I put "equality" in quotes, where people can gain political influence, and claim doing it for the greater "good"
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My Spanish wife has a nick name for these guys: Water melons. They are green on the outside but red in the middle.
"liar, liar, pants on fire, your nose is longer than a telephone wire." Fantatics seldom let things like facts stand in the way of an agenda.
Green Peace is a hungry well funded animal . They'll say anything to keep the green coming in. SAME goes for Nature CONservancy, WWildlife Fund, Rainforest Action etc etc. If the environmental 'problems' didn't re-invent themselves every few years the dollars would dwindle.
Peeps I know work for one outfit, in grant writing or P.R. then get hired at the other for bigger $$$ , move from there to a yet bigger 'green' paycheck etc…
Greenpeace Fund, Inc. …exists solely to pass funds along to other Greenpeace organizations. … Greenpeace Fund, Inc.is a corporation established for the purpose of enabling tax-deductible contributions from big donors and from foundations to flow illegally to Greenpeace, Inc. and Greenpeace Internationa. They paid nine employees $418,022 in 2001, …some of these employees "received additional compensation from Greenpeace itself (Greenpeace, Inc.)."
They beg for donations, as if they cannot accomplish their mission unless the average citizen pitches in bux. Butthey pay their executives six-figure salaries.
Pictures of sad eyed animals juxtaposed with gloomy factories and smudged skies are always a big hit with my donor friends. The pictures convince them that without the donations these critters are going to meet a bloody death.
He wanted to distort his argument soooo bad. It fun to see ideologues crack under the pressure.
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"The lifestyle of the rich in the world is not a sustainable model,” Leipold said.
Presumably, Mr. Leipold has taken a vow of poverty. Or is his lifestyle the same as that other serial exagerator, Mr. Al Gore, promoter of inconvenient so-called "truths?"
I've been saying it for years… These greenies are morons. There's NO sign of ice shrinkage.
Here's Al Gore ranting and raving like a lunatic because of what this Green peace moron said– read it and laugh!
http://www.cejournal.net/?p=1376
Yep, it all goes along with their deep-seated almost psychopathic need for control. Not really power, it's a fetishistic desire for control. For them, stupidity isn't even a factor while, they walk around with GAF viewmasters glued to their faces, eternally viewing the Edward G. Robinson death scene from Soylent Green. Ever watch that retarded show "Whale Wars"? heh heh…….a couple Ma-duces mounted on the ship would solve that problem, quickly. OK, I volunteer. .50 cal = Instant Attitude Adjustment.
Greenpeace is a highly politcially motivated Eco-terror organisation. Of course they emotionalise everything, that is how they recruit their foot soldiers. Of course they want the west reduced to third world conditions. Lies are the stock in trade of every one of these organisations from Greenstrife (I like the watermelon analogy!) to Fiends of the Earth. Science? Ha! They have lied on the Brentspar issue, they have lied about nuclear waste and power generation and now they are being caught out on the global warming issue as well. About damned time is all I can say.
If tree huggers really beleived what they said, they would commit suicide to help save the planet. I'll start to recycle my trash and buy an electric car if 100 tree huggers hanged themselves from a bridge. Otherwise my ice maker works great and I love big fat cubs in my scotch.
If you see "Phd" and "Global Warming" in the same paper, bet that it is all made up bunk. These people got degrees in global warming studies… if there's no global warming, there's no papers to write. If there's no papers to write, there's no publishing. If there's no publishing, there's no tenure at the local University and hence, you're unemployed.
Never trust an environmentalist, a fart, or your teenager with your car.
Follow those rules, you'll live a happy life.
I always watch whale wars on TV. I want to get a job on the grand whaling ship the Yushin Maru .
I can think of nothing I would I would like doing more than passing the time pelting those irritating green peace hippies with nuts and bolts, water cannons and that cool sound gun. I may even have a few new tricks up my sleeves too, that I can introduce my Japanese friend too. I think I could be a great asset to our wronged Japanese friends, if only they would allow me.
And, what will the Hollywood folks – who claim to be pro-environment – say when this guy from Greenpeace argues that they have to give up their fabulous lifestyles? Could it be that there is just a huge amount of "emotionalizing" going on here on the part of the global warming fanatics?
Good name, I hope she dont mind me to use it
You know I can't understand how they actually have a show on TV glorifying those freaks. They should be treated like Somali pirates and their ships sent to the bottom.
[...] Big Hollywood exposes the lie… The outgoing leader of Greenpeace has admitted his organization’s recent claim that the Arctic Ice… [...]
I wonder, when the whole global warming hysteria is proven false, or at the very least not the catastrophe they make it out to be, will they prosecute Al Gore and others for fraud?
I agree, if they are not pirates who is. But the best part is seeing how they are so disorganized and always lose. My wife and I laugh like hell. I would just love to be on that Japanese ship, they need to be more aggressive. I would tell them to use the harpoon on those Zodiacs, reel them in and give them a few Karate chops
Mikhail "Gorby" Gorbachev recognized a *safe haven* when he saw one and, *PRESTO*, he's "greenie". Ya, I believe him on that one…he's high living hypocrite darling of the Euro-lefties that's just another burned out old commie…like Castro
JimBob23 seconds your outrage!
JimBob23 seconds, nay thirds your outrage!
Facts matter not to the left, we must not question their authority and wisdom. These witless fools are full of compassion, and it’s for the children …damn it!
That reminds of the split in the NAZI party when one faction began to have communist leanings, of course before Hitler accerted control, i.e. mass murder of his S.A. opposition. They were called "beefsteak NAZIS" …brown on the outside and red in the middle. Very applicable.
I'm sometimes in the same room as my wife cheers for the pirates. Err!! I have to laugh, but she doesn't know what I'm laughing at. As I was on my laptop (no, really), I heard the captain say, they were trying to make it too expensive to fish for whale. I laughed out loud. Sorry, but that's not how it works. All they do is raise the price of whale meat. I cheer for the Japanese. Controlled hunts, good for the consumers, good for the whalers, and even good for the whales.
So why don't the whalers act more aggressively? What's to stop them from dropping a piano on those zodiacs? They are nothing more than terrorists in my book, and if they act aggressively then they should be met with greater aggression.
It is crucial to understand what environmentalists like Gerd Leipold mean by "sustainable". According to them the "sustainable" population of the earth is less than two billion humans. Current world population is closing in on 7 billion. Do the math, and recognized that these are organizations whose guiding 'sprinciple is "ends justify the means." What, in addition to lying about the scientific data, are they willing to do to to achieve their goals?
Greenpeace's objectives are much scarier than they sound.
Ever notice how much the hippies cry when the whalers do the exact same thing to the hippies, like fouling their prop, that the hippies done to the whalers first numerous times? Those poor excuse for guys and girls are the height of hypocrisy, I don't think they can be any worst. I think I would laugh my arse off for 5 days if they dropped a piano on the Zodiac, I am picturing it in my mind now.
Its true, it is very good for the whales. Its like deer hunting, you have to tin out the heard. Kinda kill em for their own good thing. My wife is cool, we both cheer for the Japanese. We shared your laugh at that dumb looking lazy fat captain who looks like a can opener with those teeth. I guess green peace don't have a dental plan.
Kit, does anyone actually believe in man made global warming anymore? It's literally like listening to a group of 7yr olds explain how the front window was broken………………
There is a word for disregarding the truth in order to "emotionalize" issues, and that word is "Propaganda".
And might I ask just what kind of lifestyle do the heads of Greenpeace themselves live?
Like they usually do. They'll tell "us" we have to sacrifice more for the good of mother earth…………..(he say's as he remote starts his big honkin' suv! I like it cold when I get in………)
This was also a theme in Michael Crichton's novel "State of Fear".
You, Sir, will be inducted to my personal Pantheon of Heroes along with George S. Patton, Ronald Reagan and many other people of deep conservative faith. I thought I was the only person on Earth sitting home on Fridays rooting for the Japanese, hoping someone on Yushin Maru would break out a Ben Pearson compound bow and start dropping shots on the two zodiacs. I love whales, but I detest the people on the Steve Irwin so much that I have to consider the possibility that these whales are in collusion with Al-Queda.
ganbatte ne! がんばってね!
I'm "increasing" mine everyday until "Fat Albert" does what you said………….For every one thing an eco-terrorist does to reduce imaginary man made global warming, I do ten things to offset it……..I'm not alone on this either…….
What an idiot. Economic growth rates of 3% to 8% cannot be sustained? It is the population growth rate in the undeveloped world that presents more problems. They are the ones that will be cutting down forests for wood to build and use as fuel, and polluting the rivers and lakes and advancing desertification. It is economic growth (and technological) that will save the world. The trick is to funnel our economic growth into cleaner fuels (FUSION/ANTIMATTER) and better agriculture. The powers that be will not allow it because they are protective of the status quo. They lack vision.
Reducing economic growth will have dire ecological consequences as people fight to maintain their current lifestyle. Bah…hippies.
Hey, that's the Merriam Webster definition of a "Liberal"………..
Al Gore the eco wh&re went to collage to study politics and how to aquire government money and grants. What makes him the highest revered meteorologist and scientist on the planet, who gets the noble prize for making 200 million dollars for his sales job? You just can't make this stuff up.
[...] Oops: The outgoing leader of Greenpeace has admitted his organization’s recent claim that the Arctic Ice will disappear by 2030 was “a mistake.” Greenpeace made the claim in a July 15 press release entitled “Urgent Action Needed As Arctic Ice Melts,” which said there will be an ice-free Arctic by 2030 because of global warming. [...]
"We didn't do nothin'! Some other guy just came up and raised the amount of CO2 in the atmosphere! We told him not to do it but he just laughed and ran off!"
"It's not our fault! We didn't do nothin'! Some other guy just came up and raised the amount of CO2 in the atmosphere! We told him not to do it but he just laughed and ran off!"
[...] Revealed
Uh, yeah Scott, there ARE, in fact, billions of rich people in the world. Didn't you know that "rich" is defined as anyone making over $5,000 a year, according to liberals?
I wish you were right, Jen. Given the fact that these same alarmists claimed we were entering another Ice Age– due to human consumption, of course– back in the '80s, and never bothered to correct that false rumor, I'm highly skeptical there will be any admission of error. There's probably a passage in Rules for Radicals about never admitting you're wrong.
"Just think of how green and beautiful Mother Earth would be if we wiped out half of humanity. What a utopia!" People who think like this are the people with whom Obama surrounds himself.
we've had three so far (thanks to Dreamworks). Ice Age, Ice Age 2: The Meltdown, and this summer, Ice Age 3: Age of the Dinosaurs…
article: "Leipold said later in the BBC interview that there is an urgent need for the suppression of economic growth in the United States and around the world."
Rest assured, Leipold, Prez obama is working hard to make that dream come true.
Can't we all just realize that ALL of these organizations e.g. Greenpeace are about making $$$ $$$? I would venture to say that at least 95% of workers, volunteers, leaders, etc. are in it for the paycheck – and/or a climb up the ladder to promotion – a "place in the sun" so to speak!
[...] Revealed
[...] Revealed
THEY TOOK THEIR PLAY FROM FROM BUSH CHENEY OR WAS IT THE OTHER WAY AROUND.
greenpeace is a religion, nothing more, nothing less… with their own brand of dogma.
Big Hollywood your comment of "with a thickness of 3 km in the middle" where is your proof on that!! There was a team that went from Canada to the North Pole measuring ice thickness and they found mostly first year ice and the average was around 3m thick. There is more to global warming then just the amount of ice on the North Pole. There is Permafrost melting, Sea level rise, Drought "look that up in Google news", coral bleaching, dead zones in the gulf, Magnetic field of the earth moving"Why maybe because of ice mass displacement". CO2 and Methane is increasing and the only thing we don’t know for sure is the effect it will have on the planet. We can only go by the ice core samples taken and examined that show temperature has increased when the amount of CO2 increased. Every one will tell it is getting hotter. Some say it is a cycle and some say it will keeping going up untill bad things start happening.
[...] Revealed
HMMM, people in power lying and twisting the truth.
What a surprise.
Conservatives never lie or rearrange the truth to get what we want.
Conservatives are as pure as our religious beliefs.
That's why we can malign so eloquently anyone who disagrees with our conservative beliefs.
Thank you Jesus for making conservatives so perfect in every way.
[...] I have what’s left of my ass [...]
[...] Greenpeace leader admits group mislead on the melting of arctic ice. The outgoing leader of Greenpeace has admitted his organization’s recent claim that the Arctic Ice will disappear by 2030 was “a mistake.” Greenpeace made the claim in a July 15 press release entitled “Urgent Action Needed As Arctic Ice Melts,” which said there will be an ice-free Arctic by 2030 because of global warming. Under close questioning by BBC reporter Stephen Sackur on the “Hardtalk” program, Gerd Leipold, the retiring leader of Greenpeace, said the claim was wrong. “I don’t think it will be melting by 2030. … That may have been a mistake,” he said. [...]
[...] I never thought I’d see this. Great writeup on it at Big Hollywood about Greenpeace’s *cough* exaggeration [...]
[...] Revealed
Damn your good at this! Didn't even see that one when I wrote it…………..again I say, you never let a good setup go to waste………………
“The lifestyle of the rich in the world is not a sustainable model,” Leipold said. “If you take the lifestyle, its cost on the environment, and you multiply it with the billions of people and an increasing world population, you come up with numbers which are truly scary.”
Leipold proves that the Green movement is, at its core, anti-human. Notice how he doesn't zero in on the privileged few, but acknowledges the likelihood that increased industrialization will lift many people out of poverty in the third world, as it did in Europe. But he thinks the climate is so much more important. One really has to hate people to take such a view. Continue to live in squalor, Mr. Peasant, it's for a good cause.
Being an Oilman, I tired long ago of watching the Eco-Weenies fill up the Gas Tanks in their Toyota Land Cruisers to drive to the demonstration against me. Since the Arab Oil Embargo of 1973 they have been touting their "Magical Alternative Energy Machine" that seems to always be just around the corner, if only we stop using "Evil Halliburton" and XOM's Petroleum. It would seem by now that they, and the Government Lackeys at DOE would have developed something actually useful with the Hundreds of Billions of Taxdollars we have provided them with over the past 35 years to accomplish the task. In the mean time, I'm still out here in the Gulf of Mexico, drilling these holes………………
(slowly starts to put down and hide his CO2 canister…)
ahem… nothing to see here people… move along….
- man behind the curtain
Can we say "ouch"?
Why thank you, but in all honesty that was an easy one. I was just quicker on the draw that time.
I don't think your NORMAL everyday person believes all the crap that they try to hand out. However; they keep right on pushing their crap. Probably because they've all invested in these "green" companies. Nothing but BS pure and simple.
Has anyone told Hillary?
Are you kidding? Our new media is in their back pocket. It doesn't have the guts to stand up to anyone or any thing that has left wing leanings. Our reporters are to busy reading the teleprompters to actually go out in the field and find the truth.
True journalism in America is dead!! Every newscast is rife with bias and downright elitism. The Americans protesting health care are mobs or crazy. According to Pelosi, we are Nazis. If Nobama gets his way and we turn into a Marxist nation, the media will be the first to find out just what our freedoms meant when it is taken over by Castro, ur, I meant Nobama.
I applaud the BBC for finally standing firm against the lies and tactics of wacko Greenpeace.
I hope any American that sees this video will forward this to everyone they know.
It's time that the global warming lie be put to rest.
He's got the whole world in this scam (sung to Whole World in His Hand)
He says that Global Warming is because of man,
forget about the science, he'll help you understand
Inventor of the internet, He's the man,
He's got the whole world in this scam
If you step outside you'll get an instant tan,
Kill you off faster than than AIDs and Vietnam
We've got to buy the polar bears electric fans
He's got the whole world in this scam
I think he's got the jungles confused with Iran
Nothing left for tree huggers except for ash and sand
Just one more briggs and stratton and it's kablam
He's got the whole world in this scam
He wants to sell us golf carts, that's the plan
You can have a bicycle but no Trans-am
He'll get the United Nations to enforce the ban
He's got the whole world in this scam
Nah,, been stoned and didn't believe them then either!
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