Hollywood Heroes: Boots On the Ground Report
by Brigadier General (R) Anthony J. TataKicking back listening to Bonnie Tyler belt out “Holding Out For A Hero” made me think of a recent visit to Hollywood where I had the opportunity to speak with a few producers and screenwriters, truly good people all.
Their big message: military films aren’t working. The country is weary and doesn’t want war films as entertainment. Rather, they say, the good citizens of our nation want to escape with the fictional heroes in movies such as “Transformers,” “X-Men,” and “Spider-Man.”
Military movies may not be working because Hollywood presently refuses to capitalize on the real life heroes in combat everyday. Everyone loves a good hero and for Hollywood to embrace the notion that there might be a valorous man or woman worthy of a feature film may lend creditability to the cause for which they are fighting. And we can’t have that.
Instead, their latest war films are partisan propaganda as opposed to realistic and balanced. Somewhere between the screenplay and the final edit group therapy takes place and movie houses release message films as opposed to realistic action movies.
Take for example Lions for Lambs and Redacted.
In Lions for Lambs, two students, the ‘Lambs,’ follow the guidance of a professor to make a difference in the world so they enlist in the Army, only to be left stranded by their chain of command on an Afghan mountaintop as the Taliban execute them. The message? Don’t be a fool and enlist. You will be abandoned. The movie is noticeably absent any true hero as Tom Cruise, Robert Redford and Meryl Streep all pontificate through a collective diatribe. The failing here is that millions of servicemen and women have fought in these wars and their families know that they are true heroes. So a movie that paints their loved ones as misguided sheep rings hollow.
Redacted is worse and more blunt. It sensationalizes a violent criminal act by a small group of Soldiers. Why did De Palma choose the rape and murder of an Iraqi girl as the focus of his movie, using the tagline, “Truth is the First Casualty of War?” It was a heinous, violent crime, but in no way does De Palma’s movie capture the essence of these wars or the spirit of the American fighting men and women. Again, no heroes, only villains, who happen to be American service personnel.
It seems to me that the invasion of Iraq has been a watershed. Instead of gems such as Blackhawk Down, We Were Soldiers, Saving Private Ryan and Band of Brothers, post-Iraq we get political pitch pieces. Hollywood is venting its displeasure with the previous administration’s foreign policy through its films. Yet moviegoers are not so easily fooled and pan the movies that portray the military as bloodthirsty goons or ill-informed morons.
If really is that simple, and Tyler’s lyrics have it right. We are holding out for a hero-the right kind of hero. We need Hollywood to capture the heroism of our troops. The American people know that their sons and daughters, brothers and sisters, and fathers and mothers are carrying this nation’s rucksack superbly in combat. And everyday there are heroes fighting to deny our enemies the ability to attack our homeland.
One short example takes me back to January 2007 where a young sergeant displayed the everyday valor of American fighting personnel.
Tyler’s lyrics were the furthest thing from my mind as my UH-60 Blackhawk’s composite rotor blades cut through the thin air of the Afghan Hindu Kush Mountains.
For two weeks I had been trying to fly from Bagram Air Base, where the joint task force is headquartered, to a remote operating base near the Pakistan border called the Korengal Outpost. My team had been collecting ‘To Any Soldier” letters and boxes for weeks and the holidays were upon us. However, a sudden snowstorm prevented our movement on Christmas Eve and then again on New Year’s Eve.
But January 5th was a crystal clear day, the winter sun low and bright in the blue sky, perfect for flying…and fighting. So we loaded the Blackhawk and departed early in the morning with the intent of circulating to several small outposts, checking on morale, and ensuring the troops had the equipment they needed, a routine part of senior leader battlefield movement in the 10th Mountain Division.
As we approached Asadabad Base where we would refuel, the radio crackled with the excited chatter of troops in contact just one valley over. They needed air support quickly. I directed my Apache helicopter escort to provide that support and for my Blackhawk to provide cover as his wingman. After emptying all of their ammunition twice in support of the troops in contact, the aircraft returned, picked up my team and we cruised the remaining 15 minutes to the Korengal Oupost where I would link up with Captain Jim McKnight’s rifle company.
As we approached for landing, PKM machine gun fire echoed from two or three directions. Jim McKnight was there to greet me as we disembarked, but it was clear that he had other priorities. Soon machinegun fire and rocket propelled grenades were raining down upon our exposed position. The Blackhawk alone took 8 rounds in its cargo door, where we had just been sitting, and the left engine caught on fire. The pilots powered up with the right engine, leaving their crew chief on the ground and yanking his communications cord from his crew helmet.
As rocket propelled grenades begin to crisscross through the outpost like Roman candles, I told Captain McKnight, “Forget about me, go command your company.” Happy to be unburdened from the task of managing a general in his outpost, he got to work. Meanwhile, we hunkered down and returned fire. As we moved toward the command bunker, I caught out of the corner of my eye a Soldier running down to the command post. This Soldier was shot through his left arm, tying off his tourniquet with his teeth.
As he wheeled into the bunker, he hooked a radio handset into his helmet strap with his good hand while his wounded arm was bleeding badly. Soon, it was apparent he was going into shock and that his arm was seriously damaged. He began convulsing and a medic approached him, saying, “I need to take a look at that.”
“Get away from me,” the Sergeant said, bluntly, as he punched numbers into his mortar ballistic computer. The biggest weapon at this firebase was a 120mm mortar that, with the right calculus, could destroy the attackers in quick fashion. This sergeant’s mission was to perform that calculus with the aid of a ballistic computer and then relay the information to the gun crew. Conversely, if he got the math wrong, a misguided round could kill friendly troops or civilians.
He had an important mission.
As the sergeant began to shake from the onset of shock, the medic approached again, and a second time the sergeant refused medical care, this time employing an expletive to keep the intruder at bay.
As enemy machine gun rounds punched through the plywood roof of the bunker and fell to the floor like a Colorado summertime hail storm, the medic approached a third time. Looking up from his ballistic computer the sergeant said, “You can work on me when we get first round down range.”
That was his compromise, which of course was no compromise at all. This Soldier was going to perform his most vital mission until the last drop of his blood fell into the gathering pool at his feet.
Finally, a few minutes later the mortar launched the first round, which was impressively accurate. Soon, the mortar crew was melting the tubes, pumping out high explosive, fin stabilized and deadly accurate rounds onto the enemy.
His mission done, the sergeant pushed the ballistic computer across the table to his assistant, handed him the radio, turned to the medic, and said, “Now you can work on me.”
While it’s not Paul Blart, Mall Cop, there is a good message for Americans in the young Sergeant’s sacrifice. His actions were truly heroic. And the amazing part of this Sergeant’s valor is what came next.
I was privileged to pin on his Purple Heart (2nd Award), the following day in Bagram after we medically evacuated him out of the Korengal Outpost. The sergeant then was evacuated to Landstuhl, Germany and then finally to Walter Reed Army Medical Center where he spent two months getting reconstructive surgery and healing from the gunshot wound.
In the interim, the Secretary of Defense extended by 5 months his brigade combat team’s deployment in Afghanistan, making that brigade’s cumulative time deployed 17 months. As soon as this sergeant was released from Walter Reed Army Medical Center he had every right to go on convalescent leave and chill out. He’d earned that after 11 months of combat and a serious battle wound.
Everyone but perhaps Hollywood knows how this story ends. Our hero scoffed at the notion of taking time off while his buddies were in the thick of it in Afghanistan.
Of course, he was on the next airplane smoking to Bagram.
So, we don’t need to hold out for our heroes. They’re there, right in front of us everyday.
They are holding out for Hollywood’s enormous resources and talent to capture the right heroes doing the right things at the right time. And that’s a timeless story. It’s Hoosiers on the battlefield. Good men and women with solid values placed in difficult circumstances and producing unbelievable results.
On our behalf.
Message to Hollywood: Get to work. If you remove the political lens so that you can see the American heroes fighting the good fight, your only issue will be too many good screenplays and packed movie theaters.
Believe it or not, the America I know is very proud of its men and women in uniform.







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Somebody please make a movie where a Taliban-like (or the safe and ever reliable Nazis) invade Los Angeles/Hollywood and the military the Hollywood crowd have been disparaging since Vietnam help THEM!
That's right. They join forces with the Taliban/Nazis, then, when Hollywood is leveled and is just a grease spot off the freeway and the Meryl Streeps and Sean Penns are crying in their Oscar de la Rentas or on their Ralph Laurens, does the American military step up and destroy the enemy, protecting the rest of the country, San Francisco excepted, of course. Scriptwriters – have at it.
Hollywood does make films which celebrate the military — it's just the "military" they celebrate is that of their fellow travelers who despise America.
Great read! Oh yeah, Hollywood hates the military, at least under Bush. These young people that are defending our country deserve nothing but praise. I suspect now that Barry has the burdens of the defense of the USA, Hollywood will begin to praise the Citizen Soldier again, for their protection of the hive. To all the soldiers that read BH, thanks for your service, the real America appreciates you!
While this sounds like a remarkable story, it isn't. I have known guys like this for the last 35 years. When they get out or retire, they haven't changed anything except their clothes. We are amazed at what they do, but to them, it's all in a days work.
Release the Gitmo prisoners in LA that would be fun. I wouldn’t worry about our new friends at Big Hollywood they’re all armed.
First, General, thank you for your service and good luck with the DC Public Schools…a different, but very important battlefield for our future.
Hollywood's telling of war stories seems to be stalled in the 60s when soldiers were drafted, often against their will, to fight an enemy that never attacked our country. Why can't these people understand that we have a volunteer military that is proud to serve and that they are fighting an enemy that has declared war against us multiple times on multiple fronts?
I'm sure the story of the sergeant is just one of thousands. We also (those of us who go looking, that is) have seen countless instances of humanitarian efforts and kindnesses by our men and women in uniform…I'd wager there are at least a thousand instances of this type of behavior for every rape or assault committed by a member of the military.
Hollywood has forgotten its armed forces. What's worse, it's forgotten how to tell a good story about heroism and love of country.
Excellent article. My dad is rolling in his grave at what Hollywood wants us to believe our soldiers are doing.
He joined the army air corps when it was in it's infancy, fought in Korea and was a Bird Dog pilot in Vietnam. He retired a major in the 70s and was proud of every minute he served.
I just have to know why Hollywood does it. I know there is a political agenda, but it seems like much more than that. Hollywood used to churn out good military movies all the time. Now it just seems as though they hate the American soldier.
God bless you General…that story got me all choked up because THAT'S the true test of a hero. Both of you and for all the others. Every time I see someone in uniform I get choked up because at least I know that I'm allowed to do what I want and say what I want because of them. Because of you, because of my Uncle's who stormed the beaches in the Pacific and Atlantic I am free.
Hollywood really doesn't get it. Although I suspect Michael Bay is a closet conservative. For as popcorn-y as his movies are, if you really look at them, he's very PRO AMERICAN. A pure throwback to the rah-rah movies of the Reagan era. That's why I will always support Mr. Bay…no matter how awful the movies are, he keeps me prideful that America still is the land of the free.
This is a wonderful post. I recognize there is free speech in our country which is what we are all about. However, the constant barrage of films designed to make the U.S.A. and it's military look bad is not that much different than Tokyo Rose or Hanoi Jane Fonda. I will not put money in the pockets of actors who take part in them. As an example, I used to enjoy Reese Witherspoon movies and she was never very vocal about her politics, but then did that horrible picture about a woman whose husband was sent to another country so he could be tortured. Worst part is, most Hollywood types are selective about which conflicts they oppose.
The Dixie Chicks were hardly kept from stating their mind, but then whined when people reacted strongly. They can dish it out but not take it, I suppose.
I would love to see a good film made out of the book Lone Survivor about the Navy Seal in Afghanistan.
My dad was a storehouse of stories like that from WW II, Korea, and Vietnam. I won't bore you with any of the heroics, but one story was so funny that I just love to tell it. This is the mother of all Snakes on a Plane stories.
In the middle of the Vietnam war, dad was flying C-141's out of McCord AFB in Tacoma, WA. He'd go over with cargo, and return with bodies – I can't visit the Vietnam Memorial without wondering how many of those men dad returned home. One trip they were quite late due to strong jet stream headwinds and landed after dark in a monsoon rain. The caskets were on pallets wrapped in heavy plastic, so they offloaded the cargo and loaded up the pallets with a forklift as quickly as possible while the aircraft was being refueled. Once back in the air, the navigator wanted to stretch his legs, so he decided to walk about the cargo bay. There is a pressure bulkhead between the cockpit and the cargo bay in 141's, which has an airtight door. Well, the navigator opened the door, stepped through, and then immediately dove back into the cockpit. My dad asked him what was wrong, and he said, "Snakes! Millions of them!"
Dad gave the 141 to the copilot and had a look. Sure enough, the floor of the cargo bay was covered in snakes. Not millions, but certainly hundreds. Evidently, they were hiding in the pallets, and when the cargo bay cooled down, went looking for someplace warm. I probably don't have to tell you many snake species in SE Asia are highly venomous.
So, dad took the 141 up close to its service ceiling, where the ambient temperature was about minus 50 degrees, depressurized the cargo bay, and killed all the snakes. Then, they took the plane down to the deck, opened up the rear cargo door, and swept the dead snakes out over the pacific as they cruised just above stall speed.
Dad couldn't tell that story without becoming paralyzed by laughter.
Then there was the time rats infested the C-123 he was flying, and the boa constrictor on the C-46… he had a jillion good stories.
Excellent post General. I agree with you. The men in the military no days are almost an unknown commodity to most Hollywood writers. With the exception of a very few. I remember seeing a snippet of a conversation between William Shatner and John Voigt on Raw Nerve where Shatner said something so ignorant about US Soldiers and the military he came off staggeringly bigoted. Mr. Voigt, the classy guy he is explained who our guys really are and Shatner learned some things. But still his words chilled me to the bone because he knew NOTHING about our military. If he is the mark of many in Hollywood we have a lot of work to do. It was downright disgusting and I lost much respect for him. Ignorance is our most valuable commodity and the ignorance displayed by Di Palma and others is ruinuous as ignorance always is.
You forget Jerry Bruckheimer….who is awesome to.
Your thoughts about Michael Bay are correct. Listen to the Transformers DVD commentary and he has nothing but praise for the soldiers they worked with, especially since they all seemed to be big Transformers nerds.
And Bay, Jerry Bruckheimer, and Bruce Willis all have nice things to say about the space program, astronauts, etc. on the Armageddon DVD commentary (Criterion edition).
Thank you, General Tata. Thank you for the post. This was a wonderful read. If one is allowed to "enjoy" reading about a fellow American getting his arm blown to shreds, I truly enjoyed it. These stories are so encouraging and inspiring. For me, a difficult day is when I have to sit by the smelly guy on the bus. Just amazing.
Also, thank you for keeping this story alive. I have read (I guess) over one hundred such stories in the past few years. It's easy to sort of forget… to grow accustomed to it. But, to be sure, for that sergeant… that was a singular day that will be forever burned in his memory. By you telling us his story, you keep it alive. Thank you.
And, finally, thank you for your devotion and service to our country. Thank you for all your sleepless nights. And, thank you for your dedication and respect for those who serve under your command.
God bless America… while we eagerly await the New Hollywood.
Hollywood will never change – but fortunately for the rest of of the world is changing around them. Look at youTube and the work being done there by people outside the 'chosen liberal enclave'. People do want to watch a good story, and I believe that very soon SOMEONE(s) will be there to provide it. It just won't be someone from LA.
I'd like to see them turn the Murtha story into a movie. You could show him demonizing our troops in the first half, then the reveal as we learn that he's full of sh..t, and then he can die of kidney failure in a bar with Wanda Sykes.
Anti-War movies aren't "military" movies… they're left wing political polemics. When you present soldiers as heroes ( look at Transformers), the public eats it up. We like our military, and Hollywood just can't get it through their thick left wing skulls.
When Hollywood tries to capitalize on the military, they still try to screw them somehow. Witness the new GI Joe movie… where the Joes aren't an American military unit anymore, but a UN-style "Global Integrated Joint Operating Entity". The star of the movie didn't want to do it at first because he thought it would "glorify war". And they wonder why we hate them.
Let me add, that I am much more interested (these days) in the documentary films about Iraq and Afghanistan on the History Channel (et al.) than I am about anything Hollywood is producing for theaters.
Hollywood specializes in Make-Believe. They want to make us believe their nonsense.
Thank you for this, General
Ever hear the quote: "Washington is Hollywood for ugly people"? Perhaps that means "Hollywood is Washington for the glamorous". In any case, I think its true that sometimes Hollywood is caught in bad position when it trys to do something that politicians are often accused of: Trying to score points by tri-angulation.
I case of Lions for Lambs and Redacted, they definitely miscalculated. Given the passionate cult following of the 70s era anti-war movies, perhaps its not surprising they looked towards Iraq as an oppotunity to re-create that, but that kind of forced approach is exactly why these failed. Its a square peg to a round hole, perhaps.
I definitely liked Black Hawk Down by comparison. It didn't pull any punches and definitely (to me at least) didn't come off as facist. It succeeded because it did a good job of (a) illustrating the peril we put our troops in and (b) illustrating what a f—ed up mess Somalia is, which is an important humbling point to our leadership.
I wonder why you hate them. Do you hate them because they are concerned that they may "glorify war"?
Are you suggesting that someone who wants to avoid the glofication of war is to be detested?
Are you suggesting simply that war is glorious, then? (I'd like to give you more credit than that… but I'm going off of your words here…)
"Do you hate them because they are concerned that they may "glorify war"? "
Some elements of war can be glorious. While war at its core is a horrible taking of lives, are you going to deny that things like liberating a country, and performing with honor and valor aren't glorious? The problem is that Hollywood can't see this. War = Bad, not matter what, period. You can't even have a WW II movie anymore without implying that it was just another conflict for the rich and powerful (see The Thin Red Line, and much of Tom Hank's cynicism in Saving Private Ryan).
"Are you suggesting that someone who wants to avoid the glofication of war is to be detested? "
I'm suggesting snotty movie stars that despise the military are to be detested.
The left doesn't see our men and women in uniform as heroes…they see them as victims. Victims of unscrupulous recruiters, victims of the military industrial complex, victims of America's imperialist wars. That's because the average liberal doesn't believe this country is worth fighting for, and thinks that anyone who volunteers to do it must've been brainwashed.
Just a note on DePalma's film, Redacted.
DePlama, did this film before, Called "Causalities of War". It stared Sean Penn & Michael J. Fox. They even used the same tag line.“Truth is the First Casualty of War"
I sat through this film once, I didn't need to see the "Iraq War" version.
Ditto CD:
There have been four wildly successful and two more pretty successful war movies over the last few years. Eastwood's Iwo Jima diptych, Private Ryan and Band of Brothers are World War II, which is an exception: Hollywood hasn't sunk so low as to attack that one (yet). But then there are Black Hawk Down, and We Were Soldiers: movies which treated the American fighting man in debatable conflicts with respect, without sugar-coating anything or engaging in rah-rah jingoism. And they *made money.* Isn't that the bottom line, studios? You are not putting butts in the seats by portraying men in American uniform as rapists, war criminals, whacked-out PTSD psychos, or (especially) "victims." Can you put 2 and 2 together?
(And this isn't even mentioning the sci-fi "military" of successful flicks like Aliens, Armageddon, Independence Day, Transformers, Star Trek….)
"Some elements of war can be glorious". No doubt, but I personally fail to find difficulty finding ample examples of TV and movie entertainment that illustrate this.
Star Trek – The Federation is a force for good.
Battlestar Galactica – The Viper pilots are heros, and the show goes to lengths to show how they are frustrated by the lack of appreciate they get from their public. Sure, the generals aren't perfect, but this is part of what the show explores… is that wrong?
many many cop shows that show the goodness of our men and women and blue. notible exception to a very small minority of shows about bad cops.
I really could go on and on.
Speaking of Trek, I guess I can imagine that in many societies the Enterprise would come across in outer space… there will be a military class, and likewise there will be an artistic class. And guess what? They won't be in love with eachother.
A very good read general, thank you for this brief but meaningful insight.
Perhaps one day Hollywood will get a clue. Perhaps one day I will return to the movies and have pride in the establishment the once exported to the world all that is good about the United States.
This was beyond awesome as an informative article, and one that needs to be read by all Americans who do not independently search out information on our military, and the tremendous acts of bravery committed daily by the men and women serving this nation. What part of "serving this nation" does Hollywood not get? They are missing out not only on a monetary level, but on an accomplishment level in ignoring stories like the General's.
I was watching "The Dark Knight" last night on DVD. I loved the movie, but I am sure all of you know ones does not really get a chance to enjoy, or fully appreciate some movies until you pop in the DVD. Sometimes there are layers to movies we cannot fully absorb until such a viewing takes place, and last night the full force of the definition of the word "hero" layer suddenly was even more vivid than I had first perceived. Of course this was obvious as a theme, but there to me seemed to be sort of an onion layered idea of just what a hero is as defined by the makers of "The Dark Knight". The General's article emphasizes the same type of hero definition in that heroes often do things based on principles and beliefs we may not understand, but their actions nevertheless are heroic and go largely unnoticed, or in the case of Iraq and Afghanistan unsung.
It is my strongest desire Americans do not allow these heroes to suffer as those in Vietnam suffered. If Hollywood will not support the actions of our military, but independents will; we must do everything in our power to support those who want to give us the stories of our national heroes. If there are few independents who can champion said heroes; do not leave it to Hollywood, or others, to give these men and women your support. There are many, many different groups like Any Soldier who do great work in transporting goodies and letters to our military members, and you can at any time participate in making our military feel some love from the home front. So when Hollywood fails in reflecting our sentiments towards heroes; do it yourselves! A simple face to face "Thank you!" would be greatly appreciated when you see them just walking down the street.
God Bless you General!
The first director to produce and direct an accurate tribute to our military in Iraq and Afghanistan will be crucified by the critics and the MSM, but reap huge box office from all of us our here in Flyover Country.
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Although… I gotta point out that (since Aliens is an all time fav of mine)… Aliens is intended to be actually quite in the spirit of so many "war is bad" films such as Apocalpyse Now, Platoon, etc.
US Space Marines go in gung ho and get whooped. Can you be that surprise when James Cameron (who also penned Rambo II and The Abyss) admits that the film was directly channelling Viet Nam?
sorry if that kinda jibes. just sayin'.
Without people like you and Michael Yon telling these stories, we would never know. I know that movies I would want to see about Iraq and Afghanistan have been made but on a financial shoestring so I only hear about them at Big Hollywood and other places in cyberspace. They never reach my town.
If any of you visit the DC area I would recommend spending an afternoon and walking through Arlington cemetery. Famous and not famous are there but what seems to stick in my mind was a B17 crew who was shot down over Germany and all buried together at Arlington.
I believe that the American service men and women we have today are the best we have ever had and yet it is up to writers on the Net – and the occasional book – and underfunded movie – to tell the story.
It is a sad indictment of Hollywood and the MSM.
I'm just curious: how do you guys square your general mistrust of the gov't with the (seemingly) blind adoration of its largest, most heavily armed bureaucracy?
Well Miles, the armed forces are the ONLY Government Bureaucracy that is mandated in the Constitution of the United States. (Have you heard of that document?)
Besides , These men & women, for the most part, try to live up the the standards of the first commander and chief. (Sorry Miles, You know him as a "Dead White Slave Holder")
http://www.anysoldier.com – write a letter, send a package and DONATE to the website to keep it open!
Well that is a silly question – unless those whom we are fighting are more elevated in your eyes than our heavily armed bureaucracy. If you understand the enemy then those who are fighting the enemy on our behalf are noble.
Thanks, General.
I square it by the fact that all of the many people I know who are in the military take their oath to defend the Constitution seriously, in sharp contrast to most of the self serving politicians. I recommend you get to know some of our fine men and women in uniform. It might put your mind more at ease.
Also, be aware that your local IRS office has a substantial arsenal.
sounds like a great plot for a movie… oh right, there already was an "Invasion USA".
Sorry, Gen. Tata, they're too busy working on the biopics of the guy who just fragged his own people, and the poor boy who got court-martialed for refusing to deploy to the wars.
But thanks for the straight scoop of what your men (and women) are really up to over there.
A nice dose of reality is refreshing compared to the liberal swill served in the media and movies.
Hollywood doesn't want to make good military movies, it's just that simple. When will the movie about the three guys held in Columbia by the FARC come out? Never. It's got a happy ending…
The members of this "largest, most heavily armed bureaucracy" don't campaign for your vote, or money: in fact they are forbidden to. What's more, a vast majority of the 1.5 million active duty soldiers, sailors, airmen and Marines (current as of Feb 09 according to wikipedia) can not legally take their weapons home, and in fact most are not issued individual weapons. So to call them the most heavily armed bureaucracy is a stretch. What's more, something tells me that the number of police officers in the 50 states out-numbers the total active duty military men and women. And most cops take their weapons with them. So perhaps the police are this nation's most armed bureaucracy.
Add to this that the military is so well structured, with respect to chain of command, and hammers into all of us respect for the Constitution and ALL it stands for, that if some rogue General were to try and get this "heavily armed bureaucracy" to stage a coup, he'd have an unfortunate accident before it got very far.
I only speak from 23 years experience, but that's my two cents, Mr. Miles.
The left fails because it does not make anti-war movies; it glorifys the violence and war of their side and justfies their sides justness against the demonized "them"(US). Just look at the dfference between Brian DePalma's "Untochables" and his "Casualties" and clone "Redacted", the difference is deliberate; he is on the other side.
We need movies with concepts like "Untouchables" as well as concepts like "Ryan" or "Longest Day".
The general is right about the betrayal of the stupid concept of "Lions", and the propagandists know that, just look at the castroites reaction to the very idea of a "Morgan" movie posted on this own BH blog, a true story movie about a leftie betrayed and murdered by their guy Castro; they can't allow it., challanges true belief in the revolution.
Not to the lefties; for them it is story of the bad guys(US) surviving and a challage to the justness of their commiment to FARC. It is verboten.
What pisses me off is the stories I've been seeing, on the newsstands at work, about this psycho f__k who killed five of his bunkmates. Of course the MSM are pushing the hell out of it, because it fits in with their views of what soldiers are. Either the military is fit only for sociopaths, or being in the military makes you a sociopath.
I guess "90+% of Military Veterans Come Home Safe and Completely or Relatively Sane" doesn't sell papers.
Thanks IronMike!
I wish I could have said it as well as you did.
Man that story is hilarious!
Great stuff. Thanks. Real big Hooah! on this.
You're spot on with your assessment that the heroes, that the stories are here, there and everywhere. Classic Hollywood knew this. Present Hollywood knows it too, but doesn't want to admit it.
Let's hope some well-healed folks who aren't afraid to take a chance, start funding some of these stories and getting them made into the films we can be proud of again, films that inspire, not degrade.
Otherwise, like you infer, it's more Mall Cop.
You can say that again.
Doing a quick checkof the internet reveals the number of law enforcement in America is around 800,000 (this doesn't take into account Federal agencies) so your guess about being more cops then military is wrong. You must also realize that law enforcement has a higher number of veterans (like myself) in it then most other jobs. Just my two cents.
The thing is Jake the MSM only sees people in the military in two ways, either as victims or villains, so the shooting incident in Iraq lets them play up both those angles at the same time. Making it pretty much a no brainer as to why that horse is getting flogged.
That's a class reply to a classless mouth-breather. Thank you for your service.
I recommend Brothers At War if you can find a theater that is showing it.
Is that because they are the only movies that are positive or truthful? Would you watch a Hollywood movie if it told a story of American heroism (eg. the Sergeant's story told above or something similar)?
I like a good doco, but I also like a good popcorn movie, but not an anti-military movie. Lions To Lambs sucked and I didn't even try to watch Redacted.
Good news! Lone Survivor is being made into a movie. I hope it's good. I'm sure Marcus will keep the director on his toes.
Yes, thank you, General. Outstanding post! Bravo zulu! I couldn't agree more. I sincerely hope that more producers, directors, screenwriters, and actors make more movies depicting our military heroes as they truly are: heroes, that love their country and fight to protect our lives and liberty.
I predict such movies will make far more money than the propaganda films full of garbage out there. Movies like they made during WW2 are also good for morale, at home and abroad. I'll believe Hollywood supports our troops when they prove it. Until then, I'm thankful for men like Gary Sinise, Charlie Daniels and Chuck Norris who really do support our roops.
God bless our men and women in the military, past, present and future, and God bless America!
I would say it's a combination of things. On the one hand, there is nothing more dramatic than watching the real guys tell their story. Plus, unlike the movies, documentaries don't need to follow the standard conventions, so you never know exactly where the story is going or how it will end. Not to mention you get a greater variety of stories in the documentaries.
On the other hand, I don't see a lot of modern actors that I "buy" in a military role — too many pretty boys and prima donnas. Moreover, Hollywood is just unwilling to drop the cliches or go off the beaten path. It's all special effects and a textbook advance through the plot.
Moreover, I don't think Hollywood is good at catching the spirit of the military — at least not the guys I've met. Hollywood thinks that bravery requires wanting to volunteer to die, but I've never met a soldier with that mentality. They know it can happen and they don't shirk the dangerous assignments, but I've never met one who relished suicide missions.
I understand where you are coming from with docos. And I agree with you about modern actors being pretty boys, it's actually amazing how many foreign actors play soldiers in American movies.
I really like your point about catching the spirit of the military. They always show at least one moron who would never make it in, they always have the crazy guy who would not make the psych test, just as they think they are the military type…
Thanks.
I noticed that too about how many foreign actors play American soldiers — I guess we just can't find enough in Hollywood.
As an aside, on that point, I don't know if you saw "Generation Kill" on Showtime. It was on about six months ago, it's a drama about the invasion of Iraq. One of the two main characters was played by a Swedish actor — Alexander Skarsgard (son of Stellan Stakrgard from Ronin) — though you never would have known from his accent.
It is weird, I've noticed over a number of years that the leading man is shrinking, they used to be big tall guys, now a lot of them are smaller, younger looking boys. The big guys are just not getting into acting or they are not getting the roles.
I did see 'Generation Kill', I'd just re-read the book and thought it'd make a good movie/show and then next day I saw the add for it (also read Lt Fick's book too). I liked it, well made but it just seemed a bit overboard on the 'officers are all crap' theme. Alexander Skarsgard was good in it, I didn't know who he was until I saw the credits.
I also thought the "officers are crap" theme was little excessive — at least they should have given a more fair presentation on why the enlisted men and why the officers saw things so differently. They did kind of explain it, but not clearly enough so that your average viewer would understand the different concerns they were dealing with. I have to say though, that Persons made that entire miniseries for me — he was hilarious!
I didn't know who Skarsgard was either until I looked him up — and I had no clue that he was Swedish.
On the shrinking leading man, I think you're right. Hollywood seems intent on redefining "macho" from meaning large, strong and masculine to now meaning near-whiny, pretty boy. It's very annoying. It has gotten to the point, in my opinion, that it's ruining movies. I just don't buy that these little wusses have it in them to do the things their characters are supposed to do.
Someone in Hollywood should buy the rigths to "House To House" by David Bellavia and turn it into a movie. This is a story of the battle for Fallujah and it would make an edge of the seat blockbuster. Sgt. Bellavia leaves the politics out of his story and just illustrates the fierceness of the battle. If you haven't read the book, I highly recommend it.
I've read of a few articles which question some of the events from the book/show, so we'd have to take it with a grain of salt. Persons was great, imagine being stuck in a vehicle with that guy high on ripped fuel for a few weeks, he'd drive you crazy and somehow keep you sane.
I knew his father from quite a few movies, at a guess he spent quite a bit of time growing up in the US or he is a really good actor.
I just don't see them redefining macho, the average man on the street doesn't buy it. As soon as they release a good movie with a MAN in the lead like Gladiator people go see it and it makes money. People want to see a man, not a boy, except for the manchilds themselves and hard core man hating feminists. Is there a less useful person on this world then a male model? They are not men, they are quite useless.
I've read the same articles. I don't know what's true and what isn't, but I still enjoyed the show.
You're absolutely right about the macho issue. The movies with the MAN in the lead do really well, the movies with the manchild don't. Hollywood doesn't seem to get that though.
They really can't change what it means to be a man. They've tried for years — so have consumer product companies. I read some interesting articles recently about efforts by consumer products companies to get men to start buying all of the same body-products that women buy. They keep failing and can't figure out why. Gee, I wonder. Could it be that the metrosexuals you find at the advertising agencies don't represent or understand the other 99.99999% of us?
"Is there a less useful person on this world than a male model" — no.
Your right that they cannot change what it means to be a man.
They try to ban toy guns, boys use a stick, they ban that, boys use their fingers. At some pre-schools in Australia they've banned superhero costumes as it gets the kids hyped up or some such crap.
They try and make our sports less and less physical, at school they banned British Bulldog as someone always got hurt, we would go else where and play it. They change the rules to football to take out the bif, so sports like Mixed Martial Arts (UFC) become even more popular as men want to see physical action.
And I laugh when I see reports about men's makeup (or what ever name they call it to try to convince the men they are not wearing make up). As you say, apart from gay men, male models and the metrosexuals (which I've always beleived where just gay men who were to afraid to come out) no other men want to wear it.
Crazy, they keep trying, but it's got to be nearly impossible to fight genetics.
They try all that here as well. First, they banned dodgeball because getting whacked with a big, soft red ball could hurt your self-esteem. Then they tried ushering kids into soccer and then soccer where they don't keep score. They've banned toy guns and all that too. And NONE of it works.
I saw an interesting study once, where a group of pyschologists tried to convince a group of male children, in a series of ways, that women did the "tuff" stuff and males did not. Not one single boy accepted that, no matter what they tried. Good for them! Men and women are different and that's a good thing, celebrate the difference, don't try to fight it.
I'm always surprised to hear this lunacy reach Australia. I've always seen you guys as kind of isolated from the madness, seeing as how your history makes you more akin to our West than our loony coasts (where our liberals fester). I guess, sadly, there are liberals everywhere.
By the way, I think you are right about Mixed Martial Arts. That stuff is huge right now in the US.
Scott, I see that there is a reply (which I assume came from you), but I can't see it for some reason.
I'll try that again. Your right that they cannot change what it means to be a man.
They try to ban toy guns, boys use a stick, they ban that, boys use their fingers. At some pre-schools in Australia they've banned superhero costumes as it gets the kids hyped up or some such crap.
They try and make our sports less and less physical, at school they banned British Bulldog as someone always got hurt, we would go else where and play it. They change the rules to football to take out the bif, so sports like Mixed Martial Arts (UFC) become even more popular as men want to see physical action.
And I laugh when I see reports about men's makeup (or what ever name they call it to try to convince the men they are not wearing make up). As you say, apart from gay men, male models and the metrosexuals (which I've always beleived where just gay men who were to afraid to come out) no other men want to wear it.
Crazy, they keep trying, but it's got to be nearly impossible to fight genetics.
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