When did conservatives become such pathetic whiny babies? Fey satirized Palin in the same fashion that SNL cast members and others have been doing for decades. It was funny because it rang true.

There was plenty of snobbery by the Republican country club set such as Kathleen Parker and Peg(een) Noonan. They sniffed their patrician noses at her lack of a degree from one of the Seven Sisters colleges.

Long after the left. As the children of government, sissies such as yourself are incapable of the kind of rugged individualism that made this country great. So you demand that government confiscate from society's producers in order to take care of you and your fellow sissies.

Sarah Palin as Carrie.

Best. Analogy. Ever.

As a high school outcast from a strongly conservative home, this rings so true (though I shudder to think what the pig's blood is going to be, if not Letterman).

All I'm going to say about Palin's departure into obscurity is remember David's retreat into the cave for fear that Saul would kill him. Saul was jealous of David's popularity with the masses. David had to hide for awhile. Similar thing here, me thinks.

"In the pursuit of taking her down, Misses Dowd, Couric and Fey have created the person who burns the liberal media prom down."

We can only hope.

Those who say that Sarah's resignation as governor was "brilliant" are almost as foolish as those who say it was political suicide. Clearly, it was a tactical retreat of some sort, and retreat is never fun. Whether it was "brilliant" (i.e., necessary) only time will tell. What's certain is that it was NOT political suicide.

Have we learned nothing from Obama's coronation? Neither experience nor character nor consistency is necessary to become POTUS. All you need is popularity; i.e., rock-star status. It is entirely possible that Sarah could still pull it off.

Obviously, the main obstacle is the liberal-fascist media. How they can be defeated I don't know. But can we agree on one thing? Let's stop calling them "biased." Calling the media "biased" against Sarah is like calling Hitler "biased" against the Jews. Let's call them what they are: liberal fascists.

Thank you.

So we can throw all kinds of law suits at a person until they just have no money left. Litigated to bankruptcy. This is how the republic dies, a death of a thousand cuts. We might want to revisit our history, see what our founding fathers envisioned and get rid of the clowns that are now in office. We might want to consider voting on these women with our dollars and ensure their advertisers know they are losing money supporting Dowd, Couric and Fey.
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Put up or shut up. Please provide an instance where the three pad throwers in question launched anything other than a personal attack on Palin.

Nice analogy! And we all know how that ended for Saul, too

"Pad Thrower" has just become my favorite name for liberal women in the media.

I bet you he's a troll there to!

Maurreen Dowd just showed that she has no journalistic integrity even in form on the opinion page! she is a disgrace to herself and should be ashamed to have come so low in self worth and integrity… and call it journalism. journalist are trying like hell to beat out lawyers in being the worst kind of people that exist!

Harley, I love how you can completely ignore all the faults of the Left (i.e. Obama worship), then turn around and say Republicans are like Nazi's. It's a nice reminder that even the smarter people on the Left are utterly clueless.

Someone from the party of Judeophobia calling Republicans and Conservatives Nazi's……….Wow!

Maureen and the girls (what is it you guys used to say when there were three girls in a clique…the hot one, the fat one, and the other one?) seem to express territorial defense and jealousy rather than, oh, anything worth discussion or debate. For some odd reason, I am reminded of the national guard escorting a young woman into a school building, while Maureen, Katie, Tina, and entourage, shake their fists and shout nasties.
Aside…is "pad thrower" like "tampon tosser"? Just wondering, because they could get a better fling with a pre-spin.

I suspect you are right. She's free from political constraints now! I wouldn't be suprised to see her come out and "Knee Cap" a few lefties in August………………….

If you're career can be "destroyed" by a relatively tame SNL ribbing (yeah, they "hated" her so much they INVITED HER TO THE SHOW) and Katie "What? Me Out of My League?" Couric, you are not fit to lead a country.

I can't stand Maureen Dowd!

MoDo is a dried up crone. One idea nobody has mentioned re:SP's resignation: remember back in post election 2000 how so many people were saying that, had Clinton been thrown out Gore would've won due to the 'power of incumbancy'? How do we know SP isn't killing more than two birds with a single stone? By leaving now she (1) avoids lame-duckism, (2) gets to spend more time with her family, (3) gets to write her book & make $$$, (4) bone up on issues if she is planning to run for national office AND (5) help keep the Alaskan state house in GOP hands by giving the "power of incumancy" to the LT. Gov. Sounds like a win for SP and potentially a win for the GOP & Lt. Gov.

For Sarah Palin, the gloves are now off and she will be free to defend herself and to fight back when necessary.

She will win because she is 'in their heads'. They are weak. They are afraid. They can't take it. They will lose. MoDo's column today is a fine example of journalism at it's lowest. To the liberal elites, bring it on!

There are millions of Americans who love, respect Sarah Palin for who she is and what she represents.
A good, decent woman who is as authentic as they come. Someone who works hard and is her own person.
She has served the people of Alaska with integrity and honor. If she decides to serve her country at another date in time, so be it. A wife, mother, daughter and friend who exemplifies the best qualities of character to which many of us strive for, she is a breath of fresh air.

"I can see Russian from my house" IS A LIE.

Gutter Liberals call that satire.

Hi, I'm Sarah Palin. After I get my butt kicked by Mitt Romney in the next GOP primaries, I'll soon be the flute playing, moose shooting, weather bimbo nobody that I DESERVE to be. So saddle up your dinosaurs, my fellow creationists and remember… she who runs today, lives to be a loser another day.

Please, please, please let the GOP pick Sarah Palin as their candidate. As a comedian I could not hope for anything funnier. If she is the Republicans' best hope, they are in much deeper doo doo than anyone can possibly imagine.

The Common Sense Revolution just started.
It will be unstoppable.

What press attacks? I'm unaware of a single one outside of the sources I mentioned (and he has publicly gone after Fox and Rush Limbaugh very often, which sounds a lot like a whining child who's too sensitive to being questioned). Your quote about a SINGLE LINE mentioning Ayers verifies what I originally said. Contrast that with multiple "press conferences" with Tina Fey saying really stupid things (which a painfully ignorant percentage of our population actually thought came from Palin, not Fey) and you see how insipid your defense is. How many people hung Obama in effigy publicly (without condemnation from the local government)? Smearing Palin was considered the cool thing to do (one columnist attacked her for not having an abortion), with virtually every rumor found on the blogosphere reprinted in one of the major newspapers at one time or another.

I'm still laughing that you actually tried to say SNL was tough on Obama. Seriously dude, that's embarrassing.

Stick it up your bunghole…

"Sigh. I'm guessing this crap sounds better in the original German."

The Hitler rule is now in effect.

By invoking Hitler in your comment, you necessarily lose the argument.

Exactly how does Andrew's post complaining about the vicious treatment of Palin in the media have anything to do with Nazi Germany? That doesn't even make sense.

Hello, my name is AAA…. and I say, when the going gets tough – JUST TROLL CONSERVATIVE WEBSITES AND HOPE NO ONE NOTICES HOW BAD A JOB OBAMA IS DOING.

They're afraid of Sarah, She is everything that they are not. Successful, beautiful and HAPPY.

"What press attacks? I'm unaware of a single one outside of the sources I mentioned"

Hence use of the word "hypothetical."

I was responding to your ponderance: "I wonder if he would have been "fit to lead" if not for the intentional disinformation and hero worship by the same people who relentlessly attacked Palin and told us all how unqualified she was?" in which you essentially propose a hypothetical situation wherein Obama was 'attacked' as relentlessly as you feel Palin was. As we can both agree that this was not the case in fact, your "wondering" requires a fair amount of conjecture to form a proper conclusion; I merely wish to know if in this imagined scenario Obama would handle the actual questioning as poorly as Palin did, since the HANDLING of press pressure is the fundamental key in these things.

Looks like my comment got lost in moderation limbo. Here we go again.

Those who say that Sarah's resignation as governor was "brilliant" are almost as foolish as those who say it was political suicide. Clearly, it was a tactical retreat of some sort, and retreat is never fun. Whether it was necessary or prudent only time will tell, but political suicide?

Dude. Has Obama taught us nothing? You don't need experience or character or consistency to become president. You only need popularity. Rock star status. Money and fame. Sarah may very well be able to pull it off at some point.

One more thing. Can we please stop calling the mainstream media "biased"? That's a total misnomer at this point. They're not biased, they're completely one-sided.

I don't know where Palin's house is, but many, many Alaskans on the coast can easily see Russia from their houses, it's closer than Catalina is to Los Angeles–and it's also a geographic fact that they can see us. Yes, the skit was funny & Palin came on SNL like a good sport, but the fact is, if she stood on the shore, she'd see Russia.

Mitt Romney?

The guy who came third to John McCain and Mike Huckabee in the '08 Republican primaries?

That Mitt Romney? I think not.

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Dowd a envious woman same ae as Couric. Fey a has been in show business along come a beautiful woman who is governor of a large state .Mrs Palin has done it all which none of others have. True to husband and family.
. Plus not only is she beautiful but so much more intelligent which caused jealousy . One need not graduate from a fancy college to be successful. And if Sara has decided not to stay in politics all will remember her whereas the others have long been forgotten.

Apparently, It's just another lefty BIGOT, now taking-off on Andrew's surname…Lefties are not just juvenile, they are true bigots, now totally beyond their traditional liberal "soft bigotry" of low expectations for their "plantation's" constituencies.

Pad thrower sounds more elegant, if a little less descriptive, than "tampon thrower," a term my wife uses. That term is a winner. Mrs. Breitbart nails it.

Thanks Andrew B, I think you have written a brilliant article that lays out the truth regarding the lowclass Leftist 'Feministas inability to counter what SP represents, causing these little tyrants to go off the rails. They are very afraid of the Silent Majority!
Dom, good analysis on SP's moves, very SunTzu. IMO, SP may have just enacted a paradigm shift that bodes well for her ability to be quite influential in a National Leadership role. She will be a force in 2010 and the leader of the true American majority in 2012. Sarah!

Personally, I thought you were too easy on Dowd, Andrew. Anyone who's read her column knows what a vapid, uninformed twit she is.

Good analogy Drei! Now we need a spider to hide her! Stay safe and warm in your hideaway, Sarah. Your time will surely come. Don't push! You know that destiny as often comes upon us as is achieved by us! it took a perfect storm to give us Barry-boy, and you will get your strong East wind, soon enough.
Oh, and Write and write, and write! Not for National Publication, but for Individual Illumination; for Personal Clarity not for Public Justification
Oh! And remember Maimonedes: Do not use three words where you can use two; and do not waste two words where one suffices!

Crawling into a cave is not cowardice, Bill. King David did so to avoid being killed by vastly superior forces; Robert the Bruce did so too! Caves can shelter heroes until it's their time.
In the solitude of the cave this heroine-to-be will ponder, train, learn, inscape and instress! Sarah will become SARAH!
See, she has that strength based on her faith, which tells her that her path and destination are already chosen, yet she needs to add her desire and work to bring it about!

I'm happy for her. I hope she is going Galt. I like her a lot and I think she would be great for this country. But a country that allows political enemies to attack children, families, and everything else to silence their oppostion doesn't deserve a woman like Sarah Palin. We are going to get exactly what we deserve while the world falls apart.

As a public official, Palin was constrained in the way she could respond to attacks and slanders against her and her family. As a private citizen, she has more time to devote to her own goals and no longer has to fight a Dem party in the State legislature (and ACORN-style groups devoted to creating accusations of 'unethical' behavior). She can write books, go on speaking tours, and can do it bypassing the state media, who she had to address while she was a candidate. Now she can go directly to citizens, without the MSM on her back.

She may run for POTUS in 2012, but even if she does not, she can influence the party and what kind of candidates run for the House and Senate.

Personally, if "MoDo" is still slinging flames at Sarah Palin, then that tells me she and her cronies still secretly fear her. As for SNL, I don't know what their ratings are these days, but I personally would have no knowledge of the "skits" featuring Tina Fey if they were not constantly being re-packaged as "news." I guess the same could be said of Katie Couric who seems to get less and less ratings as time goes by. As for "MoDo" isn't the NYT losing circulation every day? Who takes any of them seriously anymore? When we mention Maureen Dowd (if we must,) sneer and curl your lip and roll your eyes just like Norah O'Donnell does when she mentions Rush.

I am hardly willing to write off Sarah Palin. She is charismatic and a solid campaigner. Do I feel Sarah Palin was a little "green" in terms of running on a national ticket? Yes. But that doesn't mean she can't use the next few years to strengthen her credentials and be a viable candidate. Good Lord, as green as she was, she couldn't do any worse than the "rookie" who is in there now. She speaks from the heart; he speaks from a tele-prompter.I say this without even considering the difference in ideology, since I clearly favor Palin over Obama in terms of their respective political philosophy (fee market vs, welfare state.)

Old Tom (liked reading your post)-
She was MEANT to be a sacrificial lamb for McCain's lack of conservative bona fides but she took on a political force of her own. I think Andrew is trying to say that. The left is still batty over her and Dowd walked right into it! Thanks, Maureen for feuling the flames. Another "inappropriate" comment from David Letterman and she be up and running.
Politics is a wacky game.

Andrew, I wouldn't despair about Sarah Palin quitting the Governorship of Alaska.

I found something on Red State that might help bring this thing into perspective.

http://www.redstate.com/gary4205/2009/07/05/sarah...

Dowdy Dowd strikes again…

The venom that some women have against Palin is astonishing and hilarious if you think about it. Again, the people at SNL and all the other mainstream comedians are missing out on real comedy GOLD…

Here's a thought. The more the MSM attacks a certain person, the more we should look at that person as someone we should vote for.

This might be a good way for us to Identify who is the best and the brightest. If the communists(MSM et al) hate a certain candidate then that candidate is someone who diametrically opposes them which is what we want in a leader. Sounds reasonable to me.

Oh, you mean the language of radical leftists like Marx, Engels and of course, Adolf H?

So the left blogs are saying that she stole money from sports arena to get her house. She says the records are there and its a d@mned lied. She's suing.

She stated the reason why she quit. She isn't in this for power. She is in it to make things better for her family and by extension us.

She is being wasted up there in Alaska. All those ethics complaints cost the State of Alaska and herself a lot of money. She doesn't need you to defend her.

She has done this before. Have you read the piece from Red State?

http://www.redstate.com/gary4205/2009/07/05/sarah...

Can a conservative not respectfully disagree about Palin without getting censored on this blog. Good grief.

When were you censored? Did the Admin thing stop you again? It stops me from time to time.

"She is being wasted up there in Alaska."

I agree, she needs more exposure and it's not going to happen in Alaska. I have a feeling she'll get a TV gig with FoxNews and hook up with a think tank to get her up to speed on foreign policy. Once she is up to speed then it's go time….

I hope she helps the group to vote out Pelosi in Pelosi's district.

That would be fun to watch.

It happens here sometimes, it's even worse on Town Hall. Not a censorship thing, but definitely a pain the neck.

Huck/Palin 2012

What real hope and change looks like.

True enough.

Don't get me wrong. I'll vote for Sarah Palin if she runs again. Right now, however, I just don't think it will happen. Conservatives such as myself love her. But I don't think her numbers with independents are strong enough to beat an incumbent in the next election.

Read "independent" as: people with no strongly held political or moral views who get most of their information from "Entertainment Tonight".

Wait until Obama starts giving out his agenda with executive orders. Independents by that time won't be independent. Besides it is a shrinking minority.

It's nothing personal. Except in my case. I really think the site admin hates me…

Indeed, if history serves as a reminder, the tactics used by the Nazis to come to power are the same ones used by the Democrat Party. But then libs can't be bothered with the inconvenient truths of history.

Tom-
No doubt she needs good handlers (as Obama had.)

Perhaps she resists them. She seems more assertive than Obama…ha-ha.

We shall see. Personally, I would love to meet her and I have never felt that way about a politician and, of course, I am a junkie!

The hypocrisy is why didn't her mother(Sarah Palin) banish said child and hid her from view.

The libs have a distorted view of family on the Christian right.

bato-
just retype something in a similar vein and submit. That way we'll hear from you and when the post finally appears it won't be too redundant. I really think its an auto trip wire.

Excellent article. The most effective conservatives are in the Media: Rush, Sean, Laura,… I think Sarah could do quite well in some media outlet. Leave the Gov't to people like Mitt,… Most Gov't types end up failures. See Arnold S.

I think he's converting my "reputation" score to frequent flyer points and cashing them in at Travelocity.

Me too. I kept on expecting Pres Bush to say something, anything, but……………….

His inaction just emboldened the liberal pundits. Kind of like Clinton's inaction on terrorist groups. It just emblodened them.

You surrender that quickly, eh bato65? No wonder non-SocCons don't want to hang out with them.

I think it has a lot to do with Obama's weak cgaracter. He can't handle criticism very well, and I seriously doubt he would be able to handle the same treatment Sarah Palin gets from SNL.

If SNL grew a pair and actually started breaking Obama's balls a little, I guarantee there would be phonecalls to make it stop coming from the white house.

As a South Dakota native, I have a unique perspective about Sarah. My former state's voters kicked out 4 incumbent US Senators over the last 30 years. 3 of those 4 (Larry Pressler, Tom Daschle, and George McGovern) got caught serving two masters. Those gentlemen were putting their personal and party ambition over necessary constitutent service. IOW, they got too big for the job of US Senator from South Dakota.

When Sarah gets international attention for the moves she makes, she is REALLY too big for the job of Governor of the State of AK. So simply appreciate the fact that Sarah (and her financial backers in the GOP) have made arguably one of the biggest political bets in US History, and be a part of the history if you can.

I backed Sarah all the way until she stepped down; if only because it gives the Left all the more ammo. They found it too easy to attack her already without being able to call her a quitter.

More and more people are not following the MSM media. Sarah Palin now has Twitter and Facebook. People who want to follow her and what she does and what she says have to suscribe to her Twitter or her Facebook.

Maybe this might put it into perspective for you.

http://www.redstate.com/gary4205/2009/07/05/sarah...

Everyone knows who Sara is. Who is Maureen Dowd again?

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I think Sarah Palin's overall strength of position towards 2012 is diminished. At the end of a theoretical election, she would have to conjour a strong and convicing case that she is not a quitter, and that she is someone that could handle the miriad of challenges inherent to the Oval Office even tho she could not prevail in the office of govenor of a small and majority republican state.

There is a lot of potential for people to think otherwise however. She inflames the passions of a demo-graphic that saw beyond a lot of her other faults, so why should her latest misteps be any different? I am certain that she will remain a strong voice, and a powerful ally and attraction at fundraisers across Red State America.

For the clandestine cab-al of Republicans that still hope to attain national power through the elective process… the combination of Palin's fervent popularity a loud but min ority demographic and her "room for doubt" electibility- well I'm sure that's vexing. Or to put it another way: There are a lot of happy Dems this week.

Left-media hit job?

There are right-media hit jobs too. Such as "Bill Ayers" or "Reverend Wright". Somehow tho, Obama out-manuvered these hits. Maybe he manipulated the media skillfully enough to not let these issues sink him. I understand why people harbor resentment about that, but lets be honest: aren't all politicians a bit slimey? And to the degree that they succeed despite the ever present skeletons in their respective closets… does this or doesn't this constitue political skill?

Think about the word "media". They are a bunch of people who carry messages and tell stories. Of course they can be manipulated. What kind of leader doesn't try to influence how they are represented through this medium to the population? Any good leader must do this. And ultimately, any leader that will rise must be capable of deflecting and surviving.

I guess this whole post is a long way of saying "if ya can't stand the heat…"

Why do you compare the Bill Ayers and Reverend Wright as Right wing hit jobs?

I dunno if there will or won't be lawsuits… I'm not sure lawsuits would fly, considering the supreme court case (forget which), which protected the media when it made statements about political figures, even after they left office.

It'd be REALLY interesting if it could though… Could you imagine a lawsuit directed at Andrew Sullivan in particular (considering his hit jobs?) and Ms. Dowd? (I'd wager those would be the first two under the spotlight if it were to happen, especially Sully.)

I didn't say right-wing, I said right-media.

I grant you there are probably better examples of "Right media hit jobs". I can imagine folks here disputing my comparison since Obama was truely linked to those individuals, however significant or insignificant those links may have been.

I couldn't tell you a better analog since I'm not sure exactly what "Left media hit job" Palin has actually experienced. I have only heard that there's a big expense for legal costs associated with "information requests". Is that a hit job?

The point is- on the left and the right – there are those who will try to dig up dirt – or actively work to create the illusion of dirt. This is just a very old fashioned part of politics. There are two success factors:
a) whether there is any legitimacy of the dirt.
b) how well either side is able to make the case for or against (a).

"she's giving up political office for her family, to protect her kids." = spin.

With your negative outlook and liberal disposition, it is no wonder you were an outcast.

To a point. what also brings to mind is that anyone who actually read/heard what Reverend Wright or Bill Ayers wrote/said has no problem understanding where BHO is coming from.

Anyone who actually listens or reads what Sarah says or writes has no problem understanding where she is coming from.

I think you are comparing apples to oranges. The right media decided to show who BHO associated with during his formative years. The left media decided to call names and misrepresent Sarah.

Nice points.

I see it as a miserable and regretable part of being a politician. It cuts both ways too. Letterman's gaffe on the order of the thing McCain said about Chelsey Clinton. Did that stop Bill or Hillary?

But then you would of course say that it didn't stop Hillary precisely because it shows what an uncaring robot of a woman she must be to not drop out of politics to protect her daughter. Okay okay.

So then… maybe its not spin. What then? Palin is done? Because her family is too vulerable for the spotlight? That seems perfectly reasonable. But you aren't saying that either!

Look, either she is out to protect her family, or she's still in because her family is tough enough. Which is it?

When Sarah Palin says she's going to pursue "a higher calling," I don't think she necessarily has the 2012 election in mind. I think she means devoting herself to her family, as mother to a special-needs child, and grandmother of a single-parent child. She's made her meteoric rise by focusing on the right priorities, and I think that's what she's doing here.
She will still be available as a very public figure to speak to conservative causes, but will not be chained to the constant demands of Governor. She's made the best decision for her family and her State; I think it's as simple as that.
I think that's why she agreed to be McCain's running mate; the duties of Veep are so nebulous that even Biden could handle them–if only he's remember to keep his mouth shut.

there's probably some of this in "why Palin puts off liberals". But that's far from all of it. The main thing is that she's "Bush with b–bs".

Didn't Michael Douglas dump Maureen Dowd for Catherine Zeta Jones?

Lamb.. here's the difference between the attacks on Bristol, Willow, Trig and the attacks on Chelsea…

Did McCain make that huge gaffe? ABSOLUTELY.. he apologized almost immediately
Did Rush make that one infamous 'dog' issue.. absolutely. He also issued an apology

(in fact, I believe both apologies happened the very next days? I'd have to go back and look.).

Did Sullivan EVER apologize for the pregnancy story? Nope.. in fact, Mr. "Twoofer" is STILL pushing it when he can.
Did Letterman EVER apologize for his crack? Only after pressure from advertisers.. and only after a "non-apology' apology failed.
Did Dowd EVER apologize for her cracks on Palin and her family? Nope… in fact, as you can see, she's STILL at it.

So again, there's no comparison between the attacks on the families or the two ladies in question.

Upon reflection, and a good cup of Mystic Monk coffee, I have decided I don’t give a rat’s-rear-end if Sarah Palin returns to politics again. As someone who admires her stances and her style, if she simply goes after and legally punishes the criminal media entities that have vilified and harassed her family, I will be content if she chooses to remain a private citizen. Frankly, I think it will serve all of us who believe in small government and capitalism well — since the elite news corps will have to rethink their attack-dog approach for candidates whose only flaw is that they are not “progressives”.

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"you're trying to compare between the media outlets?"

I am trying to do that, but more-over, how each pol is able to leverage "their" media outlets, and how well they are able to fight their enemies' media outlets.

YES, my point is cynical and machiavelian in that I am factoring out the legitamacy of the dirt one way or the other.

There was dirt on bush too. he was involved in some drunk driving thing. He refered to youthful indescretions. THe left tried to make hay out of it. But Bush prevailed. Is Palin going to cultivate and eventually demonstrate such ability?

"Before the election, Obama was God and they couldn't say enough about him and how he was going to magically transform this nation into–well, they never really said only that it was going to be really, really good."

Step one: Collect underpants.

Step two: ???????????????

Step three: Profit!

All three are jealous, plain and simple.

Who cares what the left says? If they like someone we should be afraid (McCain anyone?).

The louder they screech, the better they prove her to be. Evil doesn't bother with attacking those who are no threat to it.

I HAVE to remember that 1!!

"Pulitzer Prize winner pad thrower" . . . just about the best description I've heard of Maureen Dowd EVAH!

Hello, my name is AAA- Angry A**holes Anonymous.

Of course some of us think Dowd is brilliant, both as a shark swimming among the pols and as a writer.

Hi, my name is AAA and I can't come up with an original thought, so I couch 1 talking point from Kos in different terms and repeat it over and over!

Lamb, I'd be in agreement with you other than one point… one's an attack on an individual politician. One's an attack on a politician's family.

That'd be my difference between the two instances… if the argument was that one's doing an attack series on both politicians, you'd be right on the money. In this case, the apples and oranges are so different, that using the same criteria doesn't fit.

You said it yourself when it came to Bush and the drunk driving charge, it was an attack on the politician himself. That is "fair-game" so to speak.. ugly, but fair-game. If they can't defend themselves from those sort of things, then maybe they should step out of the political arena, but attacking the families?

To my recollection, Gov. Palin defended herself quite a few times, willingly and successfully, when the attacks were aimed at her.

Hi, I'm Bristol. I'm a teenage mom and conservative who has unmarried, unprotected sex. I am just like my parents… my secessionist dad and quitter mommy. Quitting is what us Palins are ALL about. We like to call people terrorists but cry and whine like little babies when late night comedians make jokes about us. We have paper mache skin and flee in fear at the first sign of trouble. We are total hypocrites, esp. when it comes to "family values" and hating America.We like to appeal to our base, the Eric Robert Rudolphs of the world.

Compare a picture of Maureen Dowd(y) to a picture of Sarah Palin and you'll know what motivates her to make mean-spirited comments about a women she's never met or spoken to. With all the advances women have made in our society, they never seem to get past the petty back biting.

what's wrong with being a troll?

Just because we live under bridges and smell bad, doesn't mean we can't make a contribution to the discussion.

Here's why Liberal women hate Sarah Palin.

http://www.runnersworld.com/photo/sarahpalin/

Ok so replace Romney with Huckabee, Gingrich, or Gov. Mark Sanf- ummmm er never mind the last one LOL!!! No way does Quitter Sarah win the GOP nomination. I promise you.

actually, she looks like a transsexual in need of more plastic facial surgery… very "mannish" facial features.

Sorry to inform you, but due to your reasoned arguments and non-bile spewing posts of late you have been de-certified as a troll and been reclassified as "respected opposition" capable of providing meaningful contributions. Believe it or not, people are actually reading and considering your posts, note your score.

So, how does it feel to actually be inside participating in the discussions instead of screaming at the windows from the outside?

The child in her arms with downs syndrome, not her looks.

I hope that helps.

You mean Michell Obama or Barbara Boxer.

After the kids again?
Classy, AA (or whatever your name is)

Please name 1 "intelligent, articulate and HOT!!!' democratic woman to compare her with.Please. Just 1. Please.

(AA started early today.) What a beautiful pic. Thanks for posting it.

There are times when you stand and take it, and others when you run for cover and a weapon to fight back. Those are not spitballs they are shooting, if she stayed there she would be completely financially devastated, and near-completely ineffective as governor. She already accomplished her campaign goals as governor, if she remained they would have tarred her as worthless just on the rest of term.

As to the Hockey Mom thing, she is now in the best position to defend her family and provide for them, so she has followed through on that very well.

Hi, I'm AAA. I am still very much in grade school and I can't make 1 lucid, cognitive thought in support of my totally inane comments, so I resort to pad throwing. You are becoming increasingly irrelevant, lame troll.

Ana Marie Cox

They eat goats, and goats are cool.

I learned a new word today. "Pad thrower." Such a classy epithet.

Granted these are articles by women who only have gone as far as reporting their opinions for a living. None of them have put "their boots on the ground" and done anything of signifigance that advances anyone other than themselves. So anyone better looking then them must be a trophy or object. They seek to belittle her education and state she went to 5 schools yet do not mention Obama non existant school records, the short stay at Occidental college and for God's sake don't mention the years of Cocaine and drug usage.

If the women were men I would say they have Penis envy.

Hi, I'm Hanzo. When my beloved Sarah doesn't even run for president and is drummed out of the GOP by those who are FAR more qualified – I will be SO crushed. I won't know what to do. Perhaps, I'll follow my heroine's lead and quit my job and put my tail between my legs and just run away. Maybe I can kick it with Mark Sanford in South America for a few years. LOL.

And another drivel-laden reply is ALL that you'll get from that pad thrower… : )

Actually MichelleHusseinObamination's angry scowl makes her look like a gorilla – Sarkozy's wife had plenty to be concerned about…

That from someone who chooses an epithet for a nic. Real "classy."

uh, hello- GOAT MEAT IS DELICIOUS.

She threw punches during a political campaign for president. And punches were thrown back.

For the Left, that campaign never ended when it concerned Sarah Palin (and her family).

She did what charismatic outsiders always do… She scared the sh!t out of the establishment.

And that's a good thing.

Using "Repugs"? Just honestly brassy. Not disgusting. I note that with your rating you're well thought of in this swamp. And with my minus-22, I'm not. So farewell to the culture war comment wall. I've got a life to live, a living to make. Feels good to be frozen out of a hate-fest.

A pretty hollow attempt on your part. I'm pretty sure I've been partaking of this online stuff long enough to know that Liberals don't give a rat's @ss about classy. Best of luck to whatever hole you've scurried off to.

almost as classy as "pad throwers"

It is refreshing to see an incompetent politician admit that she is incompetent and resign. What took Norm Coleman so long?

Exactly where did she make you scratch your head?

The why is simple. The Left is deathly afraid of her.

Not really. The majority of the country who don't watch SNL think it would be hilarious to see them riffing on Obama, but the SNL people don't think so.

If we can not only put up with a few Dubya jokes but make some of them ourselves, and they consider Obama's reputation to be utterly inviolable, what does that say about them? They are WAY too touchy about their political heroes, to the point where they refuse even to admit the possibility that their idols might have feet of clay. Instead they bow down to him, build utopian fantasies around their image of him, and take every word that comes out of his mouth as seriously and reverently as Muslims take the spoken words of Muhammad (as handed down in the Koran).

We, on the other hand, know all too well that our heroes are human. The Left seem to have a deep-seated need to raise their heroes to the level of gods — I guess that Jesus guy ain't cutting it for them anymore. And they're even more uncomfortable and angry when they hear jokes about Obama than a Christian listening to a Jesus joke, or a Muslim overhearing trash talk about Muhammad.

"no good reason".

I'm sure the powers here deemed it a good reason. But what is that reason?

Yep. Learn from CAIR and Scientology.
Go sue crazy

Set the bar kinda low there, pal.

Dowd is just another lefty female with an empty womb and a heart full of bile…

Obama was elected to the senate to serve for how long?

Careful what you wish for… you just might get it.

Jimmy, as usual, bingo.

So what your are saying is that Maureen is demonstrating her inner Perez Hilton?

I must have missed the episode of SNL when they said Jimmy Carter was having an incestuous relationship with Amy, or Bill Clinton with Chelsea.

Other than that…

Thanks for the link.
Great read

what circle? What distortion?

what's wrong with Devils Advocacy?

people who talk about "pad throwers" are whiners. Palin was probably mean popular cheerleader in highschool anyway. (you know how catty those beauty contest contestants are!) whatever happened to Palin being some kind of pit bull with lipstick anyway?

Andy, Andy: you've really missed the point. Mrs Palin quit because she's a quitter.

She became a lame duck because she made herself a lame duck.

She was not about to be termed-out, although judging by recent polls she could have been turfed out. Her media conference, such as it was, became bizarre by any standard. Even her fellow Republicans (cf Murkowski, Rove, Huckabee et al) are finding it more than a little goofy. This is not the standard of reliability we like to associate with Republicans. Could you see Gov Romney pulling such a stunt?

She couldn't handle Katie Couric. How would she handle the Russians?

She can't handle ethics complaints, or the rejection (a first) of her nominee for Attorney-General, or rejection of another $29 MILLION available to Alaska from the feds — so how would she handle the North Koreans?

You're backing a dimwit. You Republicans could have a Condoleeza Rice, or a Kay Bailey Hutchison, or any of a dozen superbly-qualified women as your nominee. Why would you choose an erratic, incoherent, unreliable airhead? You would really trust Mrs Palin with the nuclear codes? Honestly?

She is a politician who has a very weird concept of civic duty: "I'll run, but after I win I'll probably quit."

You can do better. Thanks to Mrs Palin's self-immolation, it looks like you'll have a chance to do so.

There has never been a time when someone has been treated as badly as Sarah Palin has been, as her family, her life..
Those who say Republicans are whiny, what the Hell were you doing for the last 8 years… Whine Whine Whine Whine… Liberals/Dem's are the most hypocrital jerks EVAH!!
You go Sarah Palin… You speak for me, not the liberal media, not the elitist, not the DC set, not the Hollywood set, not the dumocrats.. YOU are about the only POL speaking for me these days. I will stand by you whatever your next endeavor is..
And the rest of you liberal idiots can go to HELL.

Hi Heidi: I am sorry you're so disappointed in the rest of America, but most of us think that your 'champion' simply isn't bright enough to do the job, nor reliable enough to hold it.

Mrs Palin TERMED HERSELF out of office, sweetheart. No one pushed her. She jumped.

Why on earth would you let a quitter speak for you? This is not the American way. We forge ahead, we refuse defeat, we look for better strategies, and WE NEVER GIVE UP. This is the American Way.

Apparently you prefer certain European models — when in doubt or fear, or simply too tired, run away.

Mrs Palin ran away. That's all there is to it.

Beats calling everyone who dis-agrees with you "Hitler", whaaa-whaaa.

Mr. Breitbart said, “But politics is not the most important way to influence our country, and reinforce conservatism's relevancy in the current global disorder. Media is.”

Wrong. All the talking and writing and movie-making in the world makes not one whit of difference if the leadership of the Republican Party remains moderate and squishy and brings us weak spokesmen and weak, moderate winners in the Republican primary elections. Most weak, moderate Republican candidates lose in the general election. Most strong conservative Republicans win. Reagan won in landslides. Why do we get moderate Republican Party primary winners? There aren’t enough conservatives in the party as volunteer precinct committeemen.

Precinct committeemen vote for the Party leadership and vote to endorse candidates in the primary elections. Registered voters only get to vote in the elections, but not in the internal Party elections.

This might get your attention: Nationwide, about one-half of the existing Republican Party precinct committeemen slots are unfilled. For example, Maricopa County, AZ, has about 6,000 precinct committeemen slots. Only 2,000 are filled, with just over half being conservative and the rest being moderate. (This conclusion is based on the fact the County Chairman, a strong conservative, won election in the 2008 internal GOP election by a margin of only 20 votes.)

Want to start a conservative revolution in the Republican Party? And, hence, in the country? To throw out the Debtocrats in the 2010 elections? Want more individual political power? Want to have a say in the direction of the Republican Party? If you’re a conservative Republican, become a Republican Party precinct committeeman. If 4,000 conservative Republicans of the 700,000 registered Republican voters flocked to the Maricopa County Republican Party to volunteer to become precinct committeemen, that would be a “shot heard ‘round the world.” It would scare the hell out of John “Cap and Tax” McCain and all the other squishy moderates in the Party who claim to be conservative.

Here’s the template: http://www.redstate.com/erick/2009/07/02/the-powe...
And here: http://www.redstate.com/coldwarrior/2009/06/30/le...

Take your country back. Now.

Thank you.

Cold Warrior

I am only one. But I am a conservative Republican Party precinct committeemen. And trying every way my small brain can think of to recruit more. Because I will not allow my children to live under socialism.

American first, conservative second, Republican by necessity.

Man, that's some pathetic stuff you're laying out there.
You're getting picked on so you're taking your ball and going home.
Quitter

Karma, like Perez, is a b^tch

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Handle the Russians?
Right now your guy is getting schooled by Medveded.
You know how the Russians will get their nuclear arsenal down to 1500? By selling the rest to our enemies.

You're an ignoramus, Trent

57 states

That would be 6 years. Of which he served 2 where he voted present nearly 200 times or didn't vote at all, and 2 years that he ran for president where he abandoned his state of Illinois. Just had to spell it out so AAA could try and comprehend how stupid he/she is.

LOL…. not as tough as teenage Bristols bastard, fatherless kid's life is gonna be that's for sure. Gotta love those "family values" eh? BTW – Snappy and verrrrry lucid comeback, Hanzo. Your GED education is serving you well.

You are borderline insane or a complete idiot. She can't handle ethics complaints? She beat every one of them. Why is she a dimwit? Because she didn't graduate from Hahvard or Yale? She turned away a noose by the feds in so-called stimulus money? I'm not much for whining, but you Democrats who have no morals or limits on what you'll do for power have been after her, her husband, her daughters and her baby since she was nominated. If she's such a non-threat because she's such a dimwit, why do your Democrat papers and news shows still go after her? She's taken quite a bit from the Obama/Democrat press and handled it pretty well. And as of this moment, you and I don't know what the full story is. You can say Obama quit 2 years after being elected to the senate. He spent the first 2 years voting present nearly 200 times and not showing up for votes. Then the next 2 years running for president. Didn't he quit the people of Illinois? I'm using your logic.

You are dumb aren't you?

Why thank you, POS,HAHAHA….Your 5th grade education is serving you as well, you actually know a couple of words that are not mono-syllable. I love it, SP isn't my fave, but if it pisses off all of you A**SSHOLES, she's for me.Your vitriole serves you well, it's all you have, mental midget.Why is it that all A**HOLES such as yourself are so afraid of this woman that all you can do is make fun of her family? Verrrry lucid and sentient comeback.Get a job Co*ksu*ker.

"Why on earth would you let a quitter speak for you?" Does this hold true for Obama "Quitting" Islam to become a Christian (So he says but forgets at times). Or does his "quitting" cocaine speak to this as well. Mind you in his own words he only stopped using because of lack of funds to buy more. Thats not really quitting as much as opportunity deprived. How about Obama's inability to "quit" smoking? How about his "quiting" Reverend Wrights church? The man married him and Baptized his kids and Obama himself. But he quit the reverend like he had the plague. Now mind you he only quit when he was caught. Not before by taking some moral stand above his friend.

So who is letting a "quitter" speak for them?

I like that!

okay okay okay. I am not disputing your points. but I am making this point:

Here is an "apple": dirt is proven… but pol is elected anyway.

Compared to an "orange": dirt is disproven… but pol drops out anyway.

I sure am comparing apples and oranges, but they're both fruit. How well are are these politicians able to keep juggling these fruits in the air? Right now Obama is president, and Palin is… going to be a big draw at fundraisers.

BUT WHY?!

BAYA, go chop another line with Barry.

Wow. All those papers lying. The miami paper says she owes money. http://www.miamiherald.com/515/story/961115.html And if you google around you will find many others. She has to pay her lawyers to defend her in court. I know, its really complicated and you are liberal and its not what your owners have told you to say. But, when you go to court you sometimes hire a lawyer and they cost money. As a government official you don't get to just whip out the government credit card and charge it, you have to pay yourself. There are laws for whistle blowers that state they don't have to pay your legal fees if they lose. That way they won't be afraid of coming forward. In theory it sounds nice, although I think it sounds corrupt. What would prevent you from bringing charges up monthly against someone and forcing them to spend money on a lawyer, after all it costs you nothing and there are no repercussions. She didn't marry a millionaire or hook up her hubby with a 350k a year job they weren't qualified to do(like Obama did for his wife). So 500k is a lot of bills. Secondly, she has to think about her kids being constantly attacked and ask herself, Am I so proud of my position I'm willing to allow them to suffer personal attacks to keep my job? Is the job really worth watching my children get trashed on a regular basis? Of course a liberal won't have their kids attacked. Witness Gore and his kid getting arrested for narcotics. http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Son_of_former_US_VP_A...
They didn't savage him, they talked about the problem of prescription drug addiction.

Secondly, I'm not backing Palin. I'm just pointing out that she was litigated out of office by anti-freedom, anti-American liberals. Like you.

"Right this minute, she is carefully implementing a well-thought-out plan to combat the idiocy that you liberals are spewing."

In the middle of its own spewing, "antiliberal" pauses to express its faith in sarah's abilities. touching, isn't it.

if we all clap real hard, maybe tinkerbell will get stronger and stronger and save us from the liberal elite.

what a pile of surrealistic fantasy. and with no truly "intelligent, articulate and HOT!!!" republican women to compare her with, sarah will have that particular field to herself for the next decade.

no, antiliberal, the republicans are in real trouble, and wishing otherwise won't make it so.

My high school physics teacher had a saying that I really love:

"The stronger the wind… the stronger the trees".

And then there was my ex-Marine football coach. His philosphy about pain was: "SPIT ON IT!"

Whatever happened to the whole Hockey Mom / pitbull-with-lipstick thing? I thought she (and her fam) were supposed to be cut from tough cloth?

If you don't like that one, how about this?

Mrs Palin is now leading in the Iquitarrod.

It's making the rounds. Much laughter. She's done it to herself, you know.

We found two guys more stupid than Auntie. Trenty and AAA. I'm sorry I fed the whiney liberal trolls. Won't happen again.

That would be cool as well!

AAA loves his Barry. Watch out guys he's gonna grade your paper.

Careful Todd! I’m telling you this cat will grade your paper. All the attacks from the left are, intriguing aren’t they, I wonder why? We have to remember the moonbats are just trying to help us misguided conservatives before we make a big mistake – hmmmm… no thanks!

If you can find an authoritative attribution to General MacArthur that precedes that found in TIME Magazine, 18 December 1950 to Major General Smith, I would be pleased to join your correction.

Until then, you are mistaken. Sorry, Toddy, but that's how it works in the real world. We go on facts. "Faith-based scholarship" just doesn't cut it.

LOL – first of all Honzo has been thoroughly vetted as a lunatic at this point. A simple reading of his latest comments are proof positive of that. He is SO beside himself it's incredibly entertaining, he is in near melt-down, reduced to a cursing, sputtering fool.

But what I really wanted to point out here is that not just Murkowski, but Karl Rove, George Will, Charles Krauthammer and others have come right out and frankly stated what a HORRIBLE misstep Palin has made here. These are among THE biggest guns of the right. Fox News has been ALL OVER her today.

I REALLY REALLY hope she tries for the GOP nomination. Can you IMAGINE the hammering she is going to take from the more centrist, established powers of the Republican party? They are going to CRUSH her relentlessly during the primaries. She will have to run as an Independent or on some other ticket, NOT the GOP ticket. Maybe she can create her own "Moose Party" or something. It's going to be fun to watch the more pragmatic Republicans destroy her. She has no chance to be nominated by the GOP anymore. By 2012 – at least 3/4 of the people commenting on here backing her will have jumped ship to an actual viable candidate.

perhaps. its all very vague to me what attacks we're talking about and how now she's better able to survive them.

the only thing she can do to protect her family is vanish from the spotlight. I only will believe that she is protecting her family if she truly does this. And when she returns to the spotlight, that should mean that her family is grown up enough to not need the protection then. Being govenor/not being govenor does nothing to protect her family if she keeps showing up in the news.

as far as political attacks… well I do think Rove had a point that she ceded the megaphone ("weapon to fight back") of the governorship. maybe she was in finance trouble, but if the RNC was footing so much for the Minisota senate election fight… surely they'd help out with the Repub's biggest star?!

no… unless she is truly dropping out of sight until her kids are all 18 (or older) … this event is still a mystery to me. I daresay perhaps a "fishy" mystery.

I'm sorry you can't quite figure it out. Maybe I should type slower or you should learn to read for content. http://www.nytimes.com/2009/07/06/us/06palin.html...

I will help you out here. What he said was that it cost the tax payers of Alaska 2 million dollars for the staff and all the document look ups. Really. Read the article. In the same article, the same guy states that she has 500k in personal legal bills. Really. It does say that. Honest. Read it. Read your original article and actually comprehend what you have read. I looked at 14 other articles and believe it or not, they all said the same thing. Two million dollar cost to the state, 500k to Palin. She also didn't have to pay back 10,000 dollars for travel. It was $6,800. That was wrong of her and raised a legitimate question. But it still seems odd that you are unable to comprehend what you read. I think it is the liberal disease of reading what you want it to say instead of what it actually says. It's the liberal inability to think outside of your owners say so.

Hey A##hole Arrogant A33wipe – Hows the summer break job search looking?

Hi Triple A: I'm not a Democrat but, if I were, I would be PRAYING that the Republicans nominated Mrs Palin. Judging by her past, she would run a preposterously undisciplined, disorganized and incoherent campaign. She would guarantee Mr Obama a second term, without him having to lift a finger.

She would reduce the once-mighty Republican Party to a radical rump of conspiracists, nincompoops, and all-round fanatics. Pat Robertson would pray for hurricanes, Todd Palin would pray for secession, and Rev Muthee would pray to keep Mrs Palin safe — again — from witches. What a hoot.

Now, a Moose Party? Sarah P in the steps of Teddy R? THAT sounds like fun.

Thanks!

Dedicated to AAA:

Monday night trolling
At the public library
Pimply teen-ager.

Stirring up trouble
Waiting for his welfare check
In parents basement.

All the Palin girls
Ignore such ignorant jerks
Even young Piper!

Sarah has done more
As gov'ner of Alaska
Than this troll ever could.

You know what I see MovieBob? I see you dancing around Des' actual point instead of addressing it. Your last response is just superficial criticism and nothing more. Fine, maybe it's not IN OUR ENTIRE HISTORY FROM DAY ONE!!!! Now that that's outta the way, how about having some intestinal fortitude and addressing the actual point of Des' argument.

If your'e not a democrat, why would you want Obama to win a second term? I'm just askin'….

From Newsmax.com, a well-known right-wing electronic journal, posted just a few minutes ago.

Palin apologists might not like it. The piece comes from one of your own…

RONALD KESSLER:
Thus, in contrast to the self-confidence and sunny demeanor that won over so many, Palin has become a sulking, suspicious diva. Quitting the governorship with 18 months left in her term only confirms that impression.

As Karl Rove told Fox News’ Chris Wallace on Sunday, Republican leaders are perplexed by Palin’s decision because “if she wanted to escape the ethics investigations and save the taxpayers money, she’s now done that, but it . . . sent a signal that if you do this kind of thing to a sitting governor like her, you can drive her out of office.”

Nor, Rove said, is she going to be able to escape media attention: “If she thinks somehow that she’s going to be able to protect her family against the kind of things that she’s suffered over the last couple of months from David Letterman and others, and seek a role of leadership for effective change for our country, as she said in her speech, she’s not going to be able to do it."

Moreover, given that one of the knocks against her was lack of experience, Palin needed all the experience as governor she could get.

In short, Palin seems to have lost what so many of us admired her for — her nerve.

Ronald Kessler is chief Washington correspondent of Newsmax.com.

..and the US has 57 states…

now that's more like it… best rebuttals I've heard all day, although you DID take liberties with "gov'ner." I'll let that slide. LOL. Got a couple more for ya and can't wait to come back here tomorrow for more "trollicious" fun.

Likes to shoot at Moose
Career hanging from a noose
Alaskan moron

Teen years were long ago
Middle age the status-quo
Time to go to bed

I believe a period is required after Mrs.

Yes?

Again. The article stated that the state has spent 2 million just in collecting the materials for the alleged ethical breaks. Collecting the material and questioning folks cost money. Their time is on the clock as well as the investigators. You could have also read that she was cleared of all charges and her legal bills are 500k. And no, as a state employee they will not reimburse you the 500k even if you win. That was also stated in the article. It is also a fact working for the government.

You kind of miss the point of filing the cases against her. They know it will cost her money regardless of the out come. If she wins, it costs her money. If she loses it costs her money. So no matter what happens, as long as they continue to file ethics complaints against her, it will cost her money to defend herself. She will not get reimbursed.

The governor did say that the state had spent 2 million on the case, he also stated that Governor Palin had 500k in legal bills. You don't seem to understand, he didn't say that part of the 2 million was her bills. It isn't. I am not sure if you have ever been to court but it costs money to defend yourself, and most of the time you just have to pay it. It does not get reimbursed. Hence people attempting to pass legislation on frivolous law suits. So her bills are 500k, the states bills so far are 2 million so total would be 2.5 million. But why talk about the total, the state is paying the 2 million and she has to pay 500k.

You say if found guilty. Are you telling me you haven't bothered to read the article again? In the articles, and there are many feel free to google them, she has been found innocent already. She doesn't benefit either way that is the point. No matter what happens she will lose. She will pay if she wins, she will pay if she loses and those that have filed the complaints have not had to pay a single dime.

These are our guest trolls today.

Fair enough.

What exactly do you want me to "address," though? That the press was largely in favor of the Democrat candidate? Duh, of course. That she got the "roughest" time in the press? That's rather obvious. Y'know what? Having the press stacked against them didn't stop Bush/Cheney from winning two terms. You're gonna tell me Palin got it worse than CHENEY? Hell no… Cheney is just better at HANDLING IT.

At worst, what I'm willing to concede is that Palin had to take TWO sets of attacks – the ones that were coming to her no matter what and the ones that would've gone to the head of the ticket if it was anyone BUT McCain whom both the country and the press known and largely like. This is why her selection was ultimately a mistake: Up until the economy tanked – at which point NO Republican was going to win against ANY Democrat – McCain's famous ease with the press and general lack of baggage was doing a good job balancing (if not neutralizing) Obama's advantages there. Palin, on the other hand, basically gave them a ready-made "perfect target."

Fair enough.

What exactly do you want me to "address," though? That the press was largely in favor of the Democrat candidate? Duh, of course. That she got the "roughest" time in the press? That's rather obvious. Y'know what? Having the press stacked against them didn't stop Bush/Cheney from winning two terms. You're gonna tell me Palin got it worse than CHENEY? Hell no… Cheney is just better at HANDLING IT.

At worst, what I'm willing to concede is that Palin had to take TWO sets of attacks – the ones that were coming to her no matter what and the ones that would've gone to the head of the ticket if it was anyone BUT McCain whom both the country and the press known and largely like. This is why her selection was ultimately a mistake: Up until the economy tanked – at which point NO Republican was going to win against ANY Democrat – McCain's famous ease with the press and general lack of baggage was doing a good job balancing (if not neutralizing) Obama's advantages there. Palin, on the other hand, basically gave them a ready-made "perfect target."

(continued)

With less experience she could have become —- President! Obama has near to none and it shows!!

Your Mr Kessler joins your Mr Rove, Gov Huckabee, Sen Murkowski and numerous others in doubting the complete wisdom of her move. Maybe they're all wrong, and you're all right.

We'll see. But I doubt Mr Kessler will be the last. I read that Roger Stone is now urging that she acquire a TV show, preferably on Fox, where she can correct her public image deficiencies. Perhaps you don't agree with that, either.

So, she doesnt have the Ivy League resume. I'm pretty sure though, she wouldn't be bankrupting the country or kissing the hindquarters of Eurosnobs and Arab Scum.

Ooh, got me on an oversight, perfesser.
Thanks for missing my point and proving my point all at once.

Yes, I suppose the British brevity of Mr, Mrs, Ms, Dr, Sen and the rest is, in fact, catching on quite widely, especially here in the states.

I'll be damned, you're quite right, it does look cleaner on the page and doesn't seem to lose a bit of clarity at all.

Thank you.

Snob.

As an example of where bad English, rancid cliché, and self-referential confusion can lead, Exhibit A:

"Life is too short to compromise time and resources… it may be tempting and more comfortable to just keep your head down, plod along, and appease those who demand: "Sit down and shut up", but that's the worthless, easy path; that's a quitter's way out. And a problem in our country today is apathy. It would be apathetic to just hunker down and "go with the flow". Nah, only dead fish "go with the flow"."

Strange words, coming from someone just minutes away from taking the quitter's way out.

I'm sure you see the absurdity of her remarks. Maybe you don't.

Perhaps she quit in a way different from all the other quitters in the world. Perhaps not.

Hey dope, it is a McArthur quote. Before you piss on someone's post toasties, you ought to do your homework. Saying it was Smith is a liberal lie that's been spread around the internet. The only places you can find that Smith said it is in liberal forums. There is no support for old trenty out there.

Now, now. You're supposed to meekly give up and forget all about Palin.

Bad, Gary!

I do recall a Marine general making that quote, but when I made a search I kept finding references to MacArthur saying it on multiple quotation sites.

So… the quote sites might be wrong, both might have said it at different times or MacArthur was quoting the General in question and people got mixed up and thought it was MacArthur. Or something else.

Here's an example:
http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/quotes/d/dougla...
Most annoyingly, it doesn't say WHERE or WHEN so it makes clearing it up all the more difficult.

Hey Pat: good to see you posting again. I went to a couple of the agglomeration sites as well, and found nothing remotely fact-based; then, the citation in TIME from 1950. This remains the earliest-known use of the phrase, and it was (as you know) NOT by Gen MacArthur. If there was an earlier, I would be pleased to learn of it, and to stand corrected. It's a witty but bizarre remark.

Given his personality, if some mere mortal tried to take credit for one of His witticisms, we would have heard about it. Douglas MacArthur was not a modest man. If he said it at all, it appears most likely that he pinched the line from his subordinate.

When you read the TIME story of the 20,000 soldiers, you'll see why, and how, it likely happened.

Hey Pat: good to see you posting again. I went to a couple of the agglomeration sites as well, and found nothing remotely fact-based; then, the citation in TIME from 1950. This remains the earliest-known use of the phrase, and it was (as you know) NOT by Gen MacArthur. If there was an earlier, I would be pleased to learn of it, and to stand corrected. It's a witty but bizarre remark.

Given his personality, if some mere mortal tried to take credit for one of His witticisms, we would have heard about it. Douglas MacArthur was not a modest man. If he said it at all, it appears most likely that he pinched the line from his subordinate.

When you read the TIME story of the 20,000 soldiers, you'll see why, and how, it likely happened

She isn't indemnified. Apparently you haven't worked for the government or just don't understand what it means to be indemnified. Public officials are not indemnified. They can not be sued if they are carrying out a lawful act you disagree with. But if you accuse her of using a government car for personal use, then she has to pay to prove that she wasn't. That is the point, she has to pay no matter she is charged with like that regardless of guilt. If she was indemnified from prosecution by just being a public official, Uncle Sam would have paid Bill Clinton's bills. Of course, they actually found him guilty. Public officials have to pay their own legal bills to defend themselves. I have no idea why you think they don't. Can you actually site a law that says the government has to pay the bills of public officials? I am not aware of one. If there is one, we should repeal it.

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Good Q.

Depends on the system one uses for abbreviations. I've come to prefer the British brevity of Mr, Mrs, Ms, Dr, Sen and the rest. You'll see that I've used this form consistently, and that it's now a commonplace where English was invented. I believe it is catching on quite widely.

The traditional '.' seems to be expiring. This way is cleaner on the page, and appears not to lose clarity. In this regard, you use 'Jimmy', but your name is most likely 'James'. Meaning is preserved.

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Here's something for you to think about, Professor Higgins, you're a snob.
You , as I've said numerous times, parrot lefty talking points and make yourself look like an ass.

Yes, I suppose if she'd had more ums and ers in there you would have approved

I don' t feel sorry for him, JA. Too hard to feel compassion for people who are so hate-filled and spiteful. They are too ego-maniacal to see any truth besides the "truth" that resides in their head, not reality. What do you expect from mysoginists who like to pick on defenseless children, especially handicapped ones?Expect an attack on me any time now, c'mon Trenty, I know you got it in you, don't prove me wrong, you little person.

thanks. as an update: Today Palin's assistant is saying that Palin's resignation was impart due to the spat with Letterman.

I'm like: Really?!!

No doubt the wellspring of sympathy from her base will be unending, but if a rude snipe from a late night comedian contributes to the resignation of the govenorship… sorry people, that's no pitbull. Perhaps she should return to just being a hockey mom.

I'd like to wipe your face with my pad!

We're kind of used to it to be honest. Unfortunately too many of my brethren (not a majority but enough to cause problems) seem to easily forget recent history, not to mention centuries of the same.

Sarah Failin WENT all right…right into the Alaska woods after turning tail…she will NEVER win a major (and probably not minor) election ever again!

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Owning Hanzo easily
Pulling at his strings

Hi Gary: in reply to yours, several.

People could, I suppose, try to speak the language of dodos and take perverse pride in not being a "snob". Their language could be riddled with non sequiturs, bad syntax, worse grammar, and a generally playground form of speech. Fair enough. But they would be incomprehensible.

Some people build entire careers singing C&W, and never notice that everything they write is a cartoon of cliché. (I make an exception for Willie Nelson, Johnny Cash, Patsy Cline and a few inspired others.) That's OK too.

You think it snobbery to strive for clear, good, strong English. I think it duncery (how's that for a word?) to be satisfied with its opposite. George Bush II's presidency failed, in some measure, because of his inability to speak good English. He often could not make his point — simple as that.

In a democracy, good speaking is essential to good leadership. The alternative is mere fiat.

Ronald Reagan's presidency succeeded, in some measure, because he spoke good, clear English. 'The Great Communicator' was not speaking in semi-sentences that mangled tense, syntax and core grammar. Some of his speeches are models of ardent clarity.

"Mr Gorbachev, tear down this this wall!" is a perfect, simple, powerful declarative sentence. It could not be improved upon, in my view.

You think me a snob. Fair enough. I play that role to the hilt, because it pisses off rednecks — which is not very hard to do. They have a very low startle point for worlds outside their own. Perhaps you've noticed.

But, really, do you rank Mrs Palin in the same league as Ronald Reagan? Surely not. Her communications skills are a garbled mess compared to his. One doesn't have to endorse his politics to respect his skill. If you still think that 'snobbery', so be it. But you have missed the point.

Ronald Reagan had great communicative abilities. By comparison, Mrs Palin is a child.

I'm all for "good , strong English" , but I'm not impressed by it unless there's substance.
You're a snob because you can't see beyond someone's choice of words.
You and your ilk can't get over yourselves.
Got it, Professor Higgins.
Oh, and your insecurity is showing.

For a smart guy you sure are dense.
I've read your requests to read Thatcher, Reagan, and Churchill. I don't need to revisit them to know what good speech makin' is.
I get it.
YOU don't get that to a lot of people love the flowery language, but what really matters is the substance. The character of a person.
See, what you don't get is that a lot of us are married to women who are a lot like Palin. Strong, independent, hot, inyelligent.
WE get her.
You, I have NO idea what kind of life you lead, but I doubt you've met someone like Palin.
That's why you don't get her…..or is it that she scares you?

Crawl back under mommy's skirt, at least you admit your'e a troll, nothing to do except to go on a site where you dis-agree with 99%+ of the people and try to stir the pot, waiting in ambush to get in an inane dig, OOOH what a rush! Thanks for proving me right, little person, have a nice day! Thanks for taking time out of your day to think of me, although I don't feel honored, only like taking a shower after being around your ilk.

Well, good on ya for wanting to preserve the Queen's English. That's fantastic.
But this is the United States of America.
Built on a tradition of rugged individualism.
Regular folks recognize that in people like Palin. They GET what she's saying and what she's about.
You'll never get it and frankly, I don't care if you ever do.

Here's a great piece by Iowahawk for you:

http://iowahawk.typepad.com/iowahawk/page/39/

Enjoy

Well, good on ya for wanting to preserve the Queen's English. That's fantastic.
But this is the United States of America.
Built on a tradition of rugged individualism.
Regular folks recognize that in people like Palin. They GET what she's saying and what she's about.
You'll never get it and frankly, I don't care if you ever do.

Here's a great piece by Iowahawk for you:

http://iowahawk.typepad.com/iowahawk/page/39/

Enjoy

Hi Gary:

I think I see part of the problem. You don't proof-read you own stuff before you press 'submit'. For example, you actually wrote, "YOU don't get that to a lot of people love the flowery language, but what really matters is the substance." That sentence, literally, makes no sense. None. Words are missing.

But your next part-sentence, "The character of a person." (it has no verb) sort of makes sense. OK. With you so far, I believe.

You admire the character of Mrs Palin, find much of it in your own wife, and admire both for being "Strong, independent, hot, inyelligent. " I think I take your meaning.

The woman to whom I am married is also very strong. She taught me (repeatedly, because I was very backward) all the ways in which men who love women must also respect women. I thought I was pretty good at the former. It turns out I was almost useless in the latter. I had to learn. Still do.

She pushed and pushed and never relented and, luckily for me, never threw me out on my ear. My wife is a strong woman who demands to be treated as the equal of any man. I gather your wife is the same, and I congratulate both of us for being so lucky.

As it happens, my wife also holds a PhD from one of America's leading research universities. She has a great command of logic, and an insatiable need for evidence. She's a very intelligent woman who makes sense, though I concede that in her discipline she often discusses science at a level I cannot follow. She dumbs it down for me, and I love her for it.

I have met only one person like Mrs Palin. She worked on a duck farm. She fed ducks, and quacked at them a lot. I'm sure she is a very fine human being.

But she is not qualified to be President, either, regardless of the strength of her character. In a democracy, our leaders operate through language, not guns nor coups nor diktat. Language. Always language.

If Mrs Palin cannot lead by language, she can never lead a nation that values democracy — because that's the only way we allow ourselves to be led.

"Good, strong English" in a democracy is a manifestation of "good, strong character". Mrs Palin is mis-trusted because she talks like a dunce.

Mr Reagan may have been opposed, but we always knew where he stood. He spoke clearly and well. Do you not see the difference?

Good character is just a good start.

One further example, Gary, and it's online.

If you want an example of simple, clear, powerful speech given by a clear and powerful Republican, read Pres Reagan's address when he dissolved the air traffic controller's union.

It was a masterpiece of consistency, coherence, and strong English in aid of a strong but controversial policy. His command of good English gave him command of the skies. He won. The air traffic controllers lost.

I don't believe that Mrs Palin has ever given such a powerfully coherent speech in her life. The majority of Americans doubt that she ever could.

I get it too. You think anyone a "snob" who uses English at a higher level than a child.

Sshhh! Don't tell Ronald Reagan!!!!

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Wants to know when you'll be home,
Miserable Troll.

They're waiting for you
Groupthink cows roaming in herds
With Liberal minds.

Obsessed with Sarah,
You just cannot help yourself.
She haunts you daily.

Pretty, sweet Sarah.
You secretly like her, right?
That's why you come here.

We like her also.
Yet we admit it freely.
We share her beliefs.

NEWS FLASH TO TRENTY- KATHLEEN PARKER IS A RINO-HARDLY A "PROMINENT CONSERVATIVE" – there, fixed it for you.

Try harder, Hanzo.

I respect the fact that English is your second language, and you're doing fairly well; however, correctly should have spelled it "you're".

'Your' is the possessive form, connoting ownership: that is your white robe, that is your burning cross, that is your Uzi, and so on.

'You're' is a contraction: in long form, it specifies 'you are': you are second-rate, you are ill-educated, you are a dunce, and so on.

There is no word "your'e" in our language. Sorry. Either you don't know any better or, like Gary, you can't be bothered to get it right. Either way, it is clear why you support Mrs Palin.

Good English is one sign of a good education. Bad English? Bad spelling? The sign of someone too slow, or too lazy, to care.

You represent Mrs Palin better than you realize.

If you want to get to Trenty- just act stoopid, he can't stand stoopid people- D'oh, I hope he won't see this, he might grade it! Hahaha!

Aw shucks, thanks Trenty, I can't really take credit for that. Just 1 name for you- Ted Kennedy – killed more people than all the above combined and still a leading voice of Libs everywhere.

We note that it has now been over two days, and we're still waiting.

Some of us pointed out that the ever-bright Mrs Palin had mis-quoted General of the Army Douglas MacArthur, and incorrectly attributed to him the "retreat in a different direction" remark.

As has been demonstrated, the earliest-known citation was from TIME Magazine, then a right-wing Luce journal, in 1950. The comments appear to have been made by Major General Oliver P Smith.

A few of the rabid right ranters on this blog shrilled that the facts were wrong, and that Mrs Palin was right. We're still waiting for the evidence, guys. Any evidence from any authoritative source? Any?

Your silence would suggest that you have none. If so, this would be typical of the fact-free zone in which you and Mrs Palin operate. Like her, you're just too lazy to do your research. Care to try again? One more day? We can wait.

I agree with your points about the discernment demonstrated by the non-drones that support Palin.

I do admit (and would never deny) that Letterman's remark was over the line. But he's a comedian! While all of Palin's reaction is totally reasonable and valid, that doesn't mean she handled it as deftly as she could have. I agree with Paglia that Palin would have been shrewder to delegate the back and forth between her and Letterman to a surrogate.

Her lack of slickness is part of her appear to her fans. But she's going to have to slick it up a bit (e.g. get some expert handlers) to win the the "main stream" arena.

We note that it has now been over two days, and we're still waiting.

Some of us pointed out that the ever-bright Mrs Palin had mis-quoted General of the Army Douglas MacArthur, and incorrectly attributed to him the "retreat in a different direction" remark.

As has been demonstrated, the earliest-known citation was from TIME Magazine, then a right-wing Luce journal, in 1950. The comments appear to have been made by Major General Oliver P Smith.

A few of the rabid right ranters on this blog shrilled that the facts were wrong, and that Mrs Palin was right. We're still waiting for the evidence, guys. Any evidence from any authoritative source? Any?

Your silence would suggest that you have none. If so, this would be typical of the fact-free zone in which you and Mrs Palin operate. Like her, you're just too lazy to do your research. Care to try again? One more day? We can wait.

Sorry Hanzy babe, but you — like the other Palin worshippers on this board — continue to avoid this one, simple question.

So, let's try again: the best evidence is that Mrs Palin malquoted and misattributed the retreat/advance remark. Why does this matter? Because it is so laughably typical of everything she does. She is intellectually lazy and incurious. She makes vapid and incoherent 'addresses', and then wonders why only the vapid and incoherent support her.

And then, of course, we have the sad characters on this board who will defend her regardless of her error-riddled commentaries.

She took lessons from Sen Kerry, and supported the Bridge to Nowhere before she opposed it. She bad-mouthed quitters, and then became one. The woman is simply not bright enough to handle the demands of high office. Have you read what her fellow Alaskan and Republican Sen Lisa Murkowski said about her yesterday?

Who do most Americans like? Smart, well-spoken, well-educated human beings who know how to read, to speak our national language, and who earn our respect by virtue of their strong experience, strong character, and inherent capacity to lead.

Krusty the Klown need not apply.

Well Trenty(aka Little miss SMARMY Pants)- I don't worship SP, she's not even my favorite conservative cabdidate. I do however like her and agree with policy stance enough to know I'd vote for her in the General Election. I'm over the General quote, however, you never proved her wrong, citing as your source a periodical. You never answered my question to you- who do you like as POTUS-BHO? I thought you were not a democrat?Anyhow, MSP(aka Trenty) I'm done with this thread, I'm moving on, on second thought, don't bother to answer my question, I don't really care what you think, Later.

Hey Toddy. It's going on three days now, and you have yet to back up your claims ["Hey dope, it is a McArthur quote. Before you piss on someone's post toasties"] with even ONE fact in your favor.

If you're honest, you will produce evidence. If you made an honest mistake, fair enough. Just say so. That's what real men do.

At the moment, you're just hiding in hopes that no one will notice your false and fatuous remark. Most Americans prefer provable fact to your sort of fatuity. (You can look it up…)

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